Beneficial Winstrol cycle in absence of Tren anybody??  

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SpruceGoose
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05/09/2018 7:27 am  

Hey bros. I have a couple of questions regarding my next cycle. It wont be anytime soo, so nothing is set in stone by any means. My goal is to trim a little fat and still maintain muscle . I have narrowed it down to winstrol and possibly another substance. I have been viewing the boards here for about a week, and I see lots of bros going with tren+winny and occasionally some test in there too to cut. However, this is only my second cycle and would rather not introduce tren so early in the game. What about just Win. and Test. What about winny and eq. (I am hesitant about this one because of the absence of the precious test ) What about winny alone?? I would appreciate any experience or possibly an informational article that I have not yet found. I thank any bros in advance for their input.


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05/09/2018 8:04 am  

I always include test in every cycle and I recommend you do so also.

I haven't done winny for a few years because it wrecks my cholesterol levels and liver values.


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SpruceGoose
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05/09/2018 8:55 am  

This will be my first with winstrol, so I'll just have to see how my body does with it. I am a little bit worried about the joints, but I'll just have to wait and see. Any objections to Test + Winstrol. Any help greatly appreciated.


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05/09/2018 9:55 am  

I wouild go with test+winny rather than winny alone.

I think winny is underate as an anabolic, but as TD says above, it is one of the worst for lipid profiles, so keep it short, (6 weeks IMO).

I think test/tren would suit your needs better to be honest, any reason for not using tren?


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SpruceGoose
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05/09/2018 10:43 am  

Understood sir. Two reasons for not using tren:
1. I will be injecting the winstrol too, that +tren equals tons of injects. This being only my second cycle, kind of dont want to be jabbing myself in sixteen different spots everynight without a little more experience.
2. Just the fact that it is so early in the game for me, and tren is such a strong steroid...I would kind of like to introduce it to my body later on....maybe 2 or 3 cycles later with the winny and test present.

I thought this was logical reasoning...tell me if you think I am being illogical and why. I appreciate the help bros.


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05/09/2018 11:32 am  

Seems perfectly logical to me.

I would not inject the winny though, I would take it orally, I am not a fan of water based injectables, and the difference between to two is negligible IMO.


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05/09/2018 12:29 pm  
Posted by: Trevdog
I always include test in every cycle and I recommend you do so also.

I haven't done winny for a few years because it wrecks my cholesterol levels and liver values.

How many weeks did you used to run W?

And do you think that running it orally between 4 to 6 weeks would be a the best thing to do to avoid these problems?

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05/09/2018 1:20 pm  

i am not a fan of injecting winny since it seems whatever little increase in efficiency you get is not worth the pain

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05/09/2018 2:01 pm  

I agree........drink the winny you won't notice a dif in effects


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SpruceGoose
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05/09/2018 3:14 pm  

Alright, in that case, should I just get winny (tabs), or just drink the solution? Do they both the same effect on one's liver? I remember reading somewhere that they both run the same dosages also....50 mg inject = 50 mg drink = 50 mg tabs. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the help.


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05/09/2018 5:05 pm  

I have no objection to test + winny. It makes much more sense to me than winny alone.

I honestly don't recall how long I ran winny in the past, it was probably at least 8 weeks.

I haven't been "off" for 2 1/2 years and when I run orals I generally go well beyond 6 weeks, I don't see shorter runs as a real solution for me. I do have some winny on hand and might take some this summer if my joints feel up to it, but right now they don't.


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05/09/2018 5:51 pm  
Posted by: SpruceGoose
Understood sir. Two reasons for not using tren:
1. I will be injecting the winstrol too, that +tren equals tons of injects. This being only my second cycle, kind of dont want to be jabbing myself in sixteen different spots everynight without a little more experience.
2. Just the fact that it is so early in the game for me, and tren is such a strong steroid...I would kind of like to introduce it to my body later on....maybe 2 or 3 cycles later with the winny and test present.

I thought this was logical reasoning...tell me if you think I am being illogical and why. I appreciate the help bros.

I wouldn't run Tren And winny together. Winny can cause joint problems and tren can compound this because it suppresses cortisol.

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05/09/2018 6:31 pm  
Posted by: SpruceGoose
Alright, in that case, should I just get winny (tabs), or just drink the solution? Do they both the same effect on one's liver? I remember reading somewhere that they both run the same dosages also....50 mg inject = 50 mg drink = 50 mg tabs. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the help.

Injects are slightly more effective but, as jb said, they are very painful. You don't avoid 17AA side effect either. 50 mgs ed is a very effective oral dose for most ppl. Keep a close watch on your BP.

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05/09/2018 7:06 pm  
Posted by: Seabiscuit Hogg
Injects are slightly more effective but, as jb said, they are very painful. You don't avoid 17AA side effect either. 50 mgs ed is a very effective oral dose for most ppl. Keep a close watch on your BP.

Is 50 mg (tabs)/day too much for a newbie?

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Trevdog
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05/09/2018 8:00 pm  
Posted by: guijr
Is 50 mg (tabs)/day too much for a newbie?

No, I consider that to be a minimum dose.


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