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cantspeak
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what do you think of this cycle:weeks 1-8 deca 600
1-8 Test Prop 100mg ed
1-8 Tren A 75mg ed

wt - 240
BF% - can see abs with out flexing
ht 5'10

cycle experience - I have not done one since 2016

1st cycle
1-12 500 sust
1-12 400 deca
1-4 30mg Dbol ed

2nd cycle
samr as above except Anadroxyl-29110.html'>Anadrol for the dbol at 50mg ed weeks 1-4
ran out of gear

3rd - just some hom,ebrew tren at 75mgs, i think i fucked it up cause it sucked only stayed on like 4 weeks


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Bilter
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your prop / tren doses are higher than I would recomend...especially for only your 4th cycle. I use the same 100mg prop and 75 mg tren but EOD. I also don't think you need the deca in there. If you do keep the deca I would cut it to 400 and stop the tren at week 6


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liftsiron
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Posted by: Bilter
your prop / tren doses are higher than I would recomend...especially for only your 4th cycle. I use the same 100mg prop and 75 mg tren but EOD. I also don't think you need the deca in there. If you do keep the deca I would cut it to 400 and stop the tren at week 6

I agree but rather you do six or eight weeks of tren run the prop out two weeks past. I would drop the deca also.

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cantspeak
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ok, wasnt sure about ed or eod ive just heard diff opinions concerning blood levels of the hormones shot ed or eod, more stable ed./ But i will shoot eod. The Deca was put in cause i have 2 vials of 300mg/ml ill save i guess for later use. what about winstrol in this cycle?


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Bilter
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tren / test is a great cycle.....no need to add anything else. Don't use all your gear just because you have it on hand.
as far as the ED vs EOD you do hear arguments both ways. all I can tell you is that i have done it both ways and saw no differnce at all........... except I use less pinz


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liftsiron
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Posted by: Bilter
tren / test is a great cycle.....no need to add anything else. Don't use all your gear just because you have it on hand.
as far as the ED vs EOD you do hear arguments both ways. all I can tell you is that i have done it both ways and saw no differnce at all........... except I use less pinz

Same here, I perfer eod.

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cantspeak
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WITH MUCN THANKS , i will do this stack

weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg eod

weeks 1-10 tren A 75mg eod


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liftsiron
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WITH MUCN THANKS , i will do this stack

weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg eod

weeks 1-10 tren A 75mg eod

I think that you are going to be quite pleased, start pct 4-5 days after last prop inject.

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cantspeak
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yes i cant wait its been a while i believe my body is primed and ready for it.

PCT schedule 20mg nolva a day for 6 weeks, HCG 500iu ed first 3 weeks, and aromasin at 20 mg a day along with the nolva


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liftsiron
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Posted by: cantspeak
yes i cant wait its been a while i believe my body is primed and ready for it.

PCT schedule 20mg nolva a day for 6 weeks, HCG 500iu ed first 3 weeks, and aromasin at 20 mg a day along with the nolva

NO! run hcg twice per week at 500ius twice per week. Stop before pct, if your using nolva only which may not be strong enough with tren. Use 40mgs for at least first three weeks.

suggested
Clomid 100 mgs nolva 40mgs 14 days
Clomid 50mgs nolva 20mgs 2-4 weeks.

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cantspeak
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Noted, I had found this PCT protocol on AR thought it was going to be the way to go. Ill listen to your advice and drop hcg maybe up nolva for the first week or 2 of the pct


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hmm, this guy is 240lbs with a pretty decent bf%, i would be tempted to leave the tren alone but increase the test to a minimum of 400mg a week, perhaps 500mg.


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cantspeak
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well you see thats where i am confused as well. I wanna start off with a decent dose but nothing extreme,. Even though i havent been using gear last few years i have kept with my training , diet and cardio.I am by no means some genetic freak or anything ive fought tooth and nail for the gains I have. Been doing a DC style type routine. I say DC style cause its not exactly DC as he outlines it.
One reason I quit the gear was lack of source and i had gotten married and my wife and i wantewd to have kids.Well she is now myy ex-wife we never had kids. So i decided to get back on the anabolic wagon


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I don't see a problem with the tren and test, but JB does make a valid point about an already low BF% as in maybe it wouldn't be necessary to take it at this juncture.

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Bilter
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Posted by: saint808
I don't see a problem with the tren and test, but JB does make a valid point about an already low BF% as in maybe it wouldn't be necessary to take it at this juncture.

I do not believe JB is telling him to drop the tren only to leave the tren dose @ 75 EOD but increase the prop dosage.


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