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ironone1
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Originally posted by xsnrg I dont think the coffee filter idea isn't a good one.They are designed to remove oil and also the chemicals used to make paper wouldn't be a nice thing to inject.Not to mention what affect the BB and BA would have on them. Then how come the fina kits give you a coffee filter to filter with besides the syr. filter?


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Originally posted by ironone1 Then how come the fina kits give you a coffee filter to filter with besides the syr. filter? That is the main reason i stay away from that type of conversion.Give me powders anyday of the week.


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Well the fina comes in pellets which has binders and crap mixed in with it so the coffee filter helps get the big stuff out before you fine filter it. Hormone powders are just plain powder with out those binders so it filters alot easier than fina. I've done fina before and it was a pain in the ass. Done my first powder batch of deca recently and it was pretty easy. 100ml with one whatman filter and no problems.


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Damn 100 ml out of one filter? I just got 5 of the .45 um ones. I figure that should be enough hopefully to convert 90 grams.


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Thats what I used, the 25mm Whatman 0.45um. Don't know if this helped or not but I filtered while my oil was still warm off the stove.


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ironone1
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Yeah I know to filter it warm from the instructions on the website. Like I said before though they still clog even when warm.


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Yeah if you push too hard the plunger will give out on you and then you have a mess. I don't know about pushing air when most of the syringe is full of oil. You would probably see some bubbles in there.


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Originally posted by ironman_845 sounds like you're pushing to hard and or pushing air through the filter.. Just filtered 20 grams of bold. undec. and 20 grams of deca(200ml) with no problems. I used two .45um ones. I think what I was doing before was trying to purge the filter with air from time to time in the process. Now that you mentioned it, maybe it did clog it. Those smaller filters are garbage though. I'd always use the .45 now. I didn't bake this time, do you guys think its necessary? Some say it may damage the integrity of it.


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I leave about 1ml in the syringe... don from finafarm mentioned this several months ago.. makes a differance..


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I'm not sure what you mean? I was using a 3cc pin that I filled up all the way every time, then purged it at the end with 2cc's. The bigger 10cc and 20cc syringes didn't seem to work as good last time. It took longer with a 3cc pin but no clogs.


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when you push the oil through the rig don't push it all out before refilling.. the idea is not to push air through the filter until the end..


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Ok gotcha. I know that air will clog it. At least now I know my mistake, lol.


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after filtering 100ml od boldenone undecylenate I desided to take the filter apart(25mm GDX 0.45 PVDF) So who still thinks that filtering isnt needed.


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Originally posted by xsnrg after filtering 100ml od Boldenone undecylenate I desided to take the filter apart(25mm GDX 0.45 PVDF) So who still thinks that filtering isnt needed. Picture is worth 1000 words..


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ironone1
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Damn, I've never seen them that dirty. My 20 grams looked like oil in there, but I didn't take it apart.


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