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equi30
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I have read all kind of opinions on masteron regarding hair loss.

Big Cat says : “Masteron in turn is actually a fairly mild drug, that is only slightly more androgenic than anabolic (in the pure sense, not comparatively, in which case it would in fact be more anabolic than androgenic) making it considerably less of an androgenic risk than for example test or tren.”

I’ve tried Test (prop and enat) , turinabol, deca, bold so far (always in low doses) and never had any problem.

Do the guys that tried it had any issue regarding hair loss?

Another issue is using Masteron in 2 digits bf.

Do you think that for someone whose bf is in the 12% range will have any benefit from Masteron?


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IMO, masteron doesn't have any benefit except for those who are entering a bb competition.

It does nothing to increase lbm, and I'm sick of hearing that it preferentially binds to shbg because shbg is significantly lowered on a cycle anyway. It's over-hyped and over-used.

As for the hairloss, this is one of the biggest individual differences I've seen. Some claim a certain AAS is easy on the hair line and then another jumps on saying, "What are you crazy! It killed my hairline!" In other words, when it comes to MPB you kinda have to give each compound a shot for yourself to actually know how its going to react.

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I'd respectfully disagree...
Personally, masteron makes any stack better, why? not really sure but for me, it's very noticeable. Also, I've found it to be just as bad for my hairline as tren. Lastly, I notice fairly decent cosmetic effects even at 12%, any higher then that I don't but I think it's a myth that you need single digit bf% to see a hardening/increased density effect.


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Posted by: DocJ
Personally, masteron makes any stack better, why? not really sure but for me, it's very noticeable.

A debate tends to bring about much information.

Have you tried subbing in a higher dose of the other steroids in the stack instead of mast? Here's what I mean. Say you run test @ 500mgs with masteron at 400mgs. You believe that this stack would be better than a higher dose of test alone, such as 750mgs or 900mgs (if one were to keep total mgs equivalent)?

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A debate tends to bring about much information.

Have you tried subbing in a higher dose of the other steroids in the stack instead of mast? Here's what I mean. Say you run test @ 500mgs with masteron at 400mgs. You believe that this stack would be better than a higher dose of test alone, such as 750mgs or 900mgs (if one were to keep total mgs equivalent)?

Yes. I believe it allows me to use lower doses of stronger androgens while still maintaining similar results. Keep in mind, this is only personal "in the trenches" experience, I have no studies or even any scientific construct validity to back this up.


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I forgot to mention that I also used proviron at 50mg/day and had no hair problems. As both are DHT related, can I expect to react to masterom the same way I did with proviron ?


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Posted by: equi30
I forgot to mention that I also used proviron at 50mg/day and had no hair problems. As both are DHT related, can I expect to react to masterom the same way I did with proviron ?

I wouldn't be overly worried about it, then.

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Posted by: ready2explode
A debate tends to bring about much information.

Have you tried subbing in a higher dose of the other steroids in the stack instead of mast? Here's what I mean. Say you run test @ 500mgs with masteron at 400mgs. You believe that this stack would be better than a higher dose of test alone, such as 750mgs or 900mgs (if one were to keep total mgs equivalent)?

I like masteron and in fact I am running it now, about 400 mgs. per week.

However, I don't think masteron can hold a candle to test in terms of mg. per mg. potency. You might experience a cosmetic benefit from using an equal amount of masteron vs. more test, but IMO that is the only aspect that masteron can compete with test.


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Posted by: DocJ
I'd respectfully disagree...
Personally, masteron makes any stack better, why? not really sure but for me, it's very noticeable. Also, I've found it to be just as bad for my hairline as tren. Lastly, I notice fairly decent cosmetic effects even at 12%, any higher then that I don't but I think it's a myth that you need single digit bf% to see a hardening/increased density effect.

My experience has been exactly as you state, I notice greatly enhanced benefit from every cycle in which I include masteron. It has become one my preferred aas to use in every cycle.

liftsiron is a fictional character and should be taken as such.


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However, I don't think masteron can hold a candle to test in terms of mg. per mg. potency. You might experience a cosmetic benefit from using an equal amount of masteron vs. more test, but IMO that is the only aspect that masteron can compete with test.


I'm planning to use it in a cutting, stacked with test, of course


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I'm planning to use it in a cutting, stacked with test, of course

And to try and answer to your first question. I haven't noticed ANY hairloss whatsoever from masteron added into a cycle. Of course someone else may?

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And to try and answer to your first question. I haven't noticed ANY hairloss whatsoever from masteron added into a cycle. Of course someone else may?


As everything in AAS, the response should be individual.

By the way, are you prone to MPB? Did any AAS made you lose hair?

I think i'm prone to MPB, I have thin hair and in the top there is a small flaw, but i've had it always (I'm 34).

But, with all the ASS i've used, never experienced an unusual amount of hairloss.

I think i will have to use it to know


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No I'm not prone but I did notice slight hairloss with primo depot, which was the only one.

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Looks like I'm getting beat up on pretty bad

Maybe I should give it another go...

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Posted by: ready2explode
Looks like I'm getting beat up on pretty bad

Maybe I should give it another go...

I wouldn't take it that way bud. We all know that aas affect different people in different ways. An example is equipoise. I may be wrong, but I believe that you have called it "pussyfied testosterone" . I somewhat agree BUT that stuff gives me a hard, hard look! Taking test without it, I get the swole look and tend to retain more water. I DO NOT KNOW WHY.

Having read this post, I may just give masteron a try the next time around.

W. Last edited by Wheelies on 05-17-2007 at 02:18 PM


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