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BigAlentejano
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02/07/2018 11:47 pm  

I was wondering if proprionate has less side-effects than enathathe or cypionate due to being a fast acting drug.

Would i be in the safe side using prop instead of the longer easters...because in case of side-effects like gyno or hairloss then i could stop prop cold turkey and since itīs fast acting then the side-.effects would go away.

The drawback is the amount of injections the user has to take but thatīs better than having my hair fall out for example.

WHat do you think...should i opt for prop?


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liftsiron
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03/07/2018 12:19 am  

Prop will be out of your system faster, but personally I perfer the longer esters. Perhaps run prop for your fist cycle to see how your body reacts to test.

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Big Cat
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03/07/2018 12:52 am  

I think one thing people tend to forget is that sides are a little over-exaggerated. A ten week test cycle with Test enth will not make your hairline reduce visibly. You can safely do such a cycle without any real problems and if you notice increased amounts of hair falling out when you brush your hair (assuming you were smart enough to take note of the amount coming out when not on) then you should likely be more cautious in future cycles and limit your amount of test, an combine it with less androgenic drugs.

Much like LI says, its mostly a case of preference, as there is no real difference among esters of testosterone.Suspension is another case.

But keep in mind it may not have an effect on your hairline at all if you are not prone to it, and if it does you will have to come to terms with hair loss sooner or later.

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BigAlentejano
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03/07/2018 1:31 am  

Well,i think iīm starting to get bald,or perhaps iīm a little paranoid about it as i have a full set of hair but recently i started to see more hairs falling out when i eitheir put gel or when i brush my hair...this could be the start of a slow and long process as i think my father had the same process too...he is 49 years old,a little bald in the front and at the back but not completly bald.
Also all my grandparents have a full set of hair...maybe itīs the gel making my hair fall out

The reason i said to start with prop is in case of side-effects showing up i can "run away" from them as prop is fast-acting.

So should i start with a low dose test for my 1st cycle,like 250mg?
In that case iīm not making the most out of my 1st cycle,because it seems everyone says to do 500mg of test in the 1st cycle.


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Big Cat
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03/07/2018 2:03 am  

And that's what I would do. 500 mg of test for 10 weeks.

First of all, don't believe all the scaremongers, side-effects from normal doses of steroids are very mild at worst, non-existent for the most part. You need to be aware of them, but not paranoid.

As far as running away is concerned, don't forget that while test enth will be in your system considerably longer, the doses you will find in your blood after 7 or 8 days are 1/10th to 1/5th the dose you have in the days prior. Meaning if you stop using enth, after a good week, effect will be significantly lower. Given the nature and normal progression of problems commonly associated with steroid use, that is more than adequate to jump off your cycle.

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BigAlentejano
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03/07/2018 2:44 am  
Posted by: Big Cat
First of all, don't believe all the scaremongers, side-effects from normal doses of steroids are very mild at worst, non-existent for the most part. You need to be aware of them, but not paranoid.

Throughout my readings in the various steroid message boards i came across users with just one cycle and with that dose losing a fair amount of hair and other losing their libido.

Maybe they were very unlucky or did something wrong perhaps.

SHould i use HCG throughout the cycle using Swaleīs protocol and using Minoxidil and Nizoral for the hair?


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Big Cat
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03/07/2018 3:26 am  

Now I know you are making things up. I NEVER heard of anyone losing their libido when using testosterone. On the contrary. So they were not unlucky, they were probably lying. same with the hair. Or do you honestly believe that you will wake up one morning with a bald spot and all the hair on your pillow ? It's a very gradual process.

Adding some nizoral as a precaution, though probably a waste, can't hurt for anything. So if this is a genuine concern, I don't see why not.

HCG throughout the cycle or high dose shock treatment after a cycle, I've tried both with equally good results in several athletes. You should choose which you feel more comfortable with.

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03/07/2018 4:04 am  

Test doesn't cause hairloss unless you are already genetically predisposed to MPB. Unless you're like me. Everytime I start getting big and freaky looking, I buzz my head with a #1.

500 mgs wk of TE is a very safe and effective first cycle. Have nolva on hand and use it for PCT. It's highly unlikely that you'll have a decreased libido.

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03/07/2018 4:57 am  

IMO the main difference, other than the duration, between these two esthers is water retention... I have a tendency to retain more water on Enan than on Prop; but that's about it..


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Big Cat
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03/07/2018 5:41 am  
Posted by: mystery_meat
IMO the main difference, other than the duration, between these two esthers is water retention... I have a tendency to retain more water on Enan than on Prop; but that's about it..

If you do experience such a difference it is either due to difference in dose of actual test, or because you are not properly administering the drug once every half life. You should be able to manipulate your enan administration to retain less water then.

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