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All else being equal, is there likely to be any significant difference in the strength and mass gained from doing a 12 week cycle of 500mg/week of test cypionate stacked with 400mg/week of deca versus a doing a 12 week cycle of 900mg/week of just test cypionate?
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Test plus deca you gain more, but the sides of deca can be a problem for some.

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I would have thought that one may gain a little more mass taking 400mg/week of deca & 500mg/week of test versus 900mg of just test but not a great deal more. I would think that strength gain would be much the same, if not more on 900mg/week of test only. Comments?


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I'd be inclined to agree with you. I wouldn't imagine a great deal of difference.

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Posted by: HitMeBack
I would have thought that one may gain a little more mass taking 400mg/week of deca & 500mg/week of test versus 900mg of just test but not a great deal more. I would think that strength gain would be much the same, if not more on 900mg/week of test only. Comments?

Not that it will happen to you, but 900 mg/week of test can also lead to some sides.

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Posted by: guijr
Not that it will happen to you, but 900 mg/week of test can also lead to some sides.


This is true but the way deca shuts some of us down, I'd rather do the straight test. Enanthate tho.

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This is true but the way deca shuts some of us down, I'd rather do the straight test. Enanthate tho.

I agree about deca's shut down side to be worse than taking a higher dose of test. Why would you choose enanthate over cypionate? Just because it has a little more test per mg than cypionate?


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I'd side with the edge of gains going towards test, but also agree with the others that there isn't going to be much of a difference.

If you wanted a vote, mine is with the test solo.

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Posted by: HitMeBack
I agree about deca's shut down side to be worse than taking a higher dose of test. Why would you choose enanthate over cypionate? Just because it has a little more test per mg than cypionate?

I have used both Testoviron Depot (test ananthate) and Deposteron (test cyp), but I think cypionate is better. Still the best test is sustanon.

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Posted by: HitMeBack
I agree about deca's shut down side to be worse than taking a higher dose of test. Why would you choose enanthate over cypionate? Just because it has a little more test per mg than cypionate?

I don't have any scientific backup but I think cyp aromatizes more. That and I like the way I feel on enanthate better.

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cyp and deca would be a great recovery cycle for injured shoulders. i do not generally do deca becasue i see no real difference in the gains.

if you like sus, just use a little prop with your enanthate for the first two weeks.

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best test is Sustanon


Why would you say that ?

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Why would you say that ?

No sides, strength and muscle gains, libido, mood, health gains. The only draw back is that it hurts after 16-18 hours after the shot.

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Just to be completely redundant and echo the gist of most of the comments already left by others: I'd also be surprised if there were any substantive difference between the two alternatives. FWIW, I'm a big believer in the "miligrams are miligrams" approach.

As far as Deca having a particularly strong or nasty side effect profile: not at all, in my experience (again, FWIW).


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Posted by: jboldman
cyp and deca would be a great recovery cycle for injured shoulders. i do not generally do deca becasue i see no real difference in the gains.

if you like sus, just use a little prop with your enanthate for the first two weeks.

jb

Do you think just Cyp or any other kind of test would have the same effect?

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