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ironman_845
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Originally posted by illplaya3 ive heard that deca and eq dont work when used together, you heard wrong..


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illplaya3
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ok ill get another bottle of test, as far as the deca goes its a 10ml bottle, should i shoot it with the test every mon and thurs (600mg a week) or just every monday -1st serious cycle


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acidsk8
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I would go 600 mg and get another bottle run it 600mg/wk for 10 weeks


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illplaya3
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ok so i need to get another bottle of test and deca thanks alot for all the help will the deca and dbol help for more vascularity, will 600mg of deca a wk cause any bad sides as far as deca dick goes? this is my 1st real cycle so i should have good results, the only thing i hate is the fact that all this shit is mex gear


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Dont think the Dbol will help with vascularity, not sure on the Deca. EQ does though. You wont get Deca Dick because of the Test you will be taking at the same time as the Deca. Also remember in order to get Good Gains you need a really good diet and an good training regimen. Oh yah dont forget lots of rest too


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illplaya3
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oh well i should get pretty large off that cycle, after its over im gonna run winny and eq and some clenbuterols but thats 10wks aheaed worry bout that another time thanks for the help need to get more money together and grab another btle of test and deca


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illplaya3
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is isopure protein any good


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acidsk8
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As long as the protein is Whey Isolate you are good to go. i would go to proteinfactory.com its cheap there. Remember you should be eating 1 to 1.5 gm of protein per lb of bodyweight everyday.


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deca @ 600mg/wk can cause progesterone related problems.. for a first cycle you don't need to go that high..


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acidsk8
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EQ would be better with the Test and Dbol IMO


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illplaya3
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ok so ill use 300mg of deca every week, should i throw in EQ along with everything, if so it would be quality vet so how many mgs do i need a wk?


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If you do throw in EQ, Id go with 400mg oer week. BUT, since this is "your first serious cycle" why are you wanting to use Test, dbol, EQ, and Deca. No matter how many drugs you stack, you can only gain a certain amount of muscle in 10-12 weeks. That much gear would be a waste IMO. Just stick with Test, Deca, and dbol


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sounds good test deca dbol.. got to grab another bottle of test any tips for diet n protein intake, shit to protect ur body(milk thistle, etc) , etc...


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Hardcoregrowth1
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If you are wanting to bulk up, Id go with high protein, high carbs, and mid fats...thats what works for me. For leaner gains, Id lower the carb intake, and keep the protein up, and the fat intake low. I like Tylers liver detox and milk thistle, as it is all I use. I just heard that R-ALA can protect aswell, which is good because I take it often, especially on my cheat days.


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if you run the Deca just remember you want 400mg/wk rather than 300


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