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My 3rd cycle, looking for some constructive criticism


IloveDeadLifts
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Hey guys. You've been helpful in the past and I'm thankful for it. Hopefully you guys can help me out on this cycle I'm planning.

My stats:
I'm 26yrs. 5'9" 190lb, about 10% bodyfat (I think,)

First of all my past two cycles:

1) Test E 500mgs Weeks 1-12
winny 50mg ed weeks 9-12
Adex .5mg EOD (I'm prone to gyno)
Clomid for pct

Gained close to 20lbs and kept about 10lb after pct.

2) I was stubborn on this one.
Test P 70mg ed weeks 1-4
Test E 600 mgs weeks 1-12
Tren A 50mgs Ed weeks 7-12
Adex .5mg EOD
Cabasar .5mg E3D
Nolva and Clomid for PCT

gained over 20lbs and kept about 12lbs after pct.
I was stubborn in running tren. Sides weren't terrible but I don't think I'll do it again, I have seasonal asthma and tren made me short of breath a lot and combined with my asthma it wasn't too pleasant but it was bearable. Also I was stupid not to take HCG.

The next cycle I'm planning looks like this:

(I Have one vial of test P 100 left I could use to kickstart)
Primoplex 100 400mgs weeks 1-12
Test C 200mgs weeks 1-12
HCG 500iu 2X week weeks 1-13
HCG 1500iu 2x week 14 (is this necessary can I get away with 500 2x?)
week 15 pct nolva and clomid

Do i need to take arimidex or cabasar with this cycle?

My goals are to gain 10lb to 15lb and keep 5lb and lose some body fat when all is said and done after pct.

I don't want to run too much test because I tend to retain too much water and my girlfriend gets very suspicious about the moderate acne i get on my back and chest. It's not bad at all but she harasses me about it and accuses me of doing roids.... how dare she ... Also my eventual goal is to be about 200lb with 7% bodyfat . I don't care about being bigger than that.

Thanks for your time guys I'll be on tomorrow morning to check and see what you guys think.


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h4x
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The a-dex helped me with water and my acne is down quite a bit as well. But at 200mg ew of Test I can't imagine you'd have much in the way of sides.

As for your girl, if you can't be honest with her about your use you don't need her, imo. My wife took a bit to get used to it, but I tell her what I'm running, how long I'm running it and when I'm dropping back to TRT... I helped educate her and now she keeps on me about blood work and helps keep everything straight. We even went to our doctor together and she learned how to do injections. She also reads this forum so it's hard for me to BS her now she knows where to go for info, lol.

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DoubleWide
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man you should just be straight with your girl. she needs to learn to deal with it. its so much easier when you dont hide shit and your partner is open minded and will support you.

as for cycle you should try some masteron i love it.

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IloveDeadLifts
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I'm still a novice. I have a ways to go in education before I can even attempt to convince my girl that I'm not killing myself by juicing. But I'm happy to say that I'm slowly educating myself day by day. These forums are awesome. It's nice to hear from all you guys and girls that have been doing this a lot longer than I have. I know everyone is unique and responds to differently to any anabolic so it's good to have such a collection of different thoughts and viewpoints. I'm also reading Llewellyn's Anabolics 2006. It's a tough read so it's going to take me some time.

Anyhow I have no exp with primo. Or primoplex. Anyone here use axio or syntrop primo? Or any other kind of primo? It's pricey and I'm going to use a chunk of my tax return to get it, I want to make sure I'm making a smart buy.


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IloveDeadLifts
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Masteron instead of the Primo? Or add masteron to the mix? I'm not prone to hair loss. Haven't had any issues with my last two cycles. However primo and masteron are dht derivatives, should I be concerned about hair loss even though I'm not prone to it?


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w000dy
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The thing to get you where you most want to be is diet. Make sure that is in check. If you decide to tell your girl, get on YouTube and look up the HBO special on Steroids and have her watch it. I will bet she will be more tolerant of it after she watches it...


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DoubleWide
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masteron instead of primo. if your gonna be dieting and doing lots of cardio then masteron is great. keeps you very strong even when your tired and exhausted from dieting and keeps your hard and i found is just a great drug. i have never used primo, but i know its not as strong and your not gonna see as much from it as masteron.

test shoudl be in every cycle. i keep things simple. test, along with eq, deca or masteron pretty much every cycle and maybe some dbol etc thrown in for 2 or 3 wks here and there. eat clean do cardio and train hard and you will put on good solid weight.

when i first started gear, it sucked tryign to explain it to chicks. after a while you find one who will research it with you and understand it and you willl be good to go.

im glad that your so interested in doing research and learning thats important.

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IloveDeadLifts
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Thank you guys. I'll look more into masteron. How's this look:

Test C 200mg weeks 1-12 (should I do Prop at 75mg EOD instead being that I can do EOD with the Mast?)
Masteron 150mgs EOD weeks 1-12
HCG 500ui 2X weeks 1-13
HCG 1500 iu 2X weeks 14
Pct weeks 15-17 nolva and clomid

Also I've heard that Mast acts as an anti E so I don't need Adex for a cycle with masteron correct?

Also Even though I'm not prone to hair loss should I take finestride just in case with mast?

Another question is test necessary with a masteron cycle? I'll be taking HCG so that should keep most of my hormone levels ok. Also my libido should be fine cause of the DHT right?

Could I run mast and equipose instead? And if so how should i dose them?

Thanks for your support and knowledge


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DoubleWide
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i think test should be in every cycle. it just makes you grow. i would use adex with this cycle just in case. have it on hand you may not need it. prop 100mgs e0d or e3d will work. i dont know if you will need anything for hair loss imo.

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IloveDeadLifts
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Also I'm happy to announce that I just got my bloodwork back from my doc. It's been 2 months since my last inject and My liver values are in the low 50s. Tryglicerides are 45. Total Cholestero is 144, and HDL is 49, LDL is 86. These are U.S. values.


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