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Vic
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16/06/2019 11:28 am  

Hi Guys,

First post at GROWXXL, great site.

My stats:

Age: 25
Weight: 205lbs
Height:5'11
BF: 9-10%

This will be my 3rd cycle, first cycle Test only @ 400mg /week - 10 weeks, 2nd cycle test & Dianoxyl-31348'>D-bol (unfortunately i had to cut short as gyno popped up and persisted, i still have a tiny bump under my left nip, that was 2,5 months ago)

Next cycle: Week 1-10: Test Cyp@ 400mg
Week 1-10: Equipoise @ 500mg
Week 7-12:winstrol @ 100mg EOD

*nolva@ 20mg throughout for pre-existing gyno*

*As for PCT, bacteriostatic water is very hard to come by here in SA and Pregnyl losses its potency after 2 day from being opened (TRUE?) So i was thinking mid cycle does from week 4, 1500iu every 5th day, and again in week 9, 1500iu every 5th day. *

Any help with the planning always appreciated


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smellycatt
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16/06/2019 11:59 am  

I just finished a test/winny/eq cycle. Man I I got hard as a freakin rock on that combo. Felt great too. Good luck bro


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Zircon
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16/06/2019 12:20 pm  

if u can watch teh lipids esp when u go on winny. my bet is within 1-2 weeks of winny ur lipids will be shot...butit works well lol


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jboldman
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16/06/2019 12:39 pm  

just watch the oral meds and drinking when on the winny. make sure to supp with lots of nac, silymarin, and fish oil. 100mg of winny is a pretty hefty starting dose. you might want to work up to it.

jb


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smellycatt
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16/06/2019 1:00 pm  

I did Zambons...No oral


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Vic
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16/06/2019 1:29 pm  

Im be shooting the poise and test on a monday and friday. From week 7, how do i incorporate the winni shots, Monday/ Wednesday/ Friday? Should i reduce dose to 75mg EOD?

On the HCG, is my suggested protocol sufficient?


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r1ddl3r
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16/06/2019 1:51 pm  

Make the winny 50mg/ED

As for HCG 500IU twice a week throug the cycle is better. An Pregnyl is potent ~2 weeks after mixed, I think.


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Vic
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16/06/2019 2:17 pm  

Thanks Riddler,

So are you saying each HCG amp lasts 2 weeks from when opened?

For the winni, can i inject with slin needles and rotate sites on smaller groups (bi's/tri's/calves)?


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r1ddl3r
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16/06/2019 2:45 pm  

Well, HCG doesn't degrade in 2 weeks, I think on Organon's leaflet it says 60 days, but I could be wrong, but don't leave it in the amp 😛 and keep it in the fridge.

As for winny, if you go deep enough, sure you can use a slin pin, but why not use 25g 5/8" instead? That's the standar for spot injections in small muscles.


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Trevdog
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16/06/2019 3:07 pm  

Winny has no ester so it should be dosed every day. You can drink it with little loss of potency if you don't want to shoot it all the time.


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jboldman
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16/06/2019 3:27 pm  

hmm, shooting winny in the bi's should be an experience. actually shooting winny anywhere for me was so crippling i only tried it afew times before giving up on injecting.

jb


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Vic
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16/06/2019 3:57 pm  

JB,

Is it really that bad? What have you resorted to, Tabs and Orally ingesting the liquid?

SmellyCat,

What were your stats before and after the cycle?


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smellycatt
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16/06/2019 4:19 pm  

It was a spring cutter and I was doing a lot of cardio and reps. I went from 217 and fat to 197 and hard like a rock. My waste dropped from 36 to 32. I'm maintaining it well too. I look and feel a million times better and will do this cycle again. I got a lot stronger too.

TREV- "You can drink it with little loss of potency if you don't want to shoot it all the time."

You ever try that?


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Vic
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16/06/2019 4:41 pm  

What did your HCG usage look like?

Can you concur that HCG has a half life longer than 2 days?


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16/06/2019 5:01 pm  

There is huge differance between half life and potency. The first defines the time that the drug is active in the body after administration, the second the time that it can be used with no loss in its pharmacokinetics.


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