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Fluffy
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05/10/2018 6:03 am  

If you would like to maintain bf or atleast not bloat up alot and keep shitloads of water, what would be your best bet.

Lean mass, ready for summertime. Cycle for a first timer.

#1 Test+Deca+Dbol

#2 Test+Tren+Win/Var/T-Bol

#3 Tren+Masteron+Win/Var/T-Bol

Testo Ester: C or E
Tren Ester: A, E or HHC.

and some IGF-LR3.

Anti-E/PCT:aromasin, Nolvadex, Dostinex, clomid, HCG.

How long and why do you think that would be the best way?

Personally I've heard great things of #3, people gaining 40-60 lbs in strength gains on Bench etc. and getting real shredded, even lost bf


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Gino_ny2az
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05/10/2018 6:42 am  

How bout #4?

test/tren/EQ

500mg TEST
300mg Tren enanthate
400mg EQ (Boldenone)

winny will fuck up your joints and tendons, i would stay away from Winny, just my opinion.


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Nytol2
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05/10/2018 7:26 am  

#2 would be my choice, dont rate EQ personally.

I'd go 500 Test Enanthate once per week, 100mg tren acetate EOD, and 40mg Winny oral ED, split morning and evening.

Tren has the benifit of making you look different in only a couple of weeks, but I'd run it for 8-10 if the sides dont get to you, then run the test for an extra 2 weeks then start PCT.

Tren is better than Masteron in my opinion, and I think most others will agree.


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Big Cat
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05/10/2018 8:00 am  

Why not just dump the orals and go for low dose test combined with higher dosed tren ?

Good things come to those who weight.

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Bilter
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05/10/2018 8:47 am  
Posted by: Big Cat
Why not just dump the orals and go for low dose test combined with higher dosed tren ?

Thats what I like. 100mg tren and 100mg test prop EOD. I figure if I'm stickin EOD I may as well use prop.


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Nytol2
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05/10/2018 9:18 am  

100tp/100ta EOD is very nice too!


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Fluffy
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05/10/2018 10:08 am  

Yes, FINALLY now we're talking. Took some days tho, lol

Gino: I don't think I would go over 1 g of roids for a first timer, do you?

BigCat: Any spesific reason for not wanting to use Winny? Thought Win+Tren had synergetic effect?

What is "low dose test?" 250 mg ew? How much Tren E ew?


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smellycatt
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05/10/2018 10:54 am  

JMO

Don't start with a gram a week. Man that's a lot when you have no idea what's going to happen. How old are you?

Sorry for the buzz kill but I started out slow a long while back and I'm glad I did. I did a 300mg test enan cycle for my first and it was great. I got good gains and was very happy. Since I've had some big cycles but...... I have a bad temper and I've had days where I follow assholes to work that run me off the road and nearly rip their heads off.....Not anymore but it did happen... Be aware that it's not just a game....You need to be prepared for what will happen.

When I see people say they will mix test/tren/var etc on the first cycle I think...Oh man.... I hope his job is tolerant. I hope he has a good relationship because those things are rough on us guys with experience. They can fuck you up bad if you aren't ready. I mean ready dude. They will fuck with your mind and you won't even know what happened the first time. You'll be so high on what is happening that you wont care...

So... Be careful if you choose that route. That's all I'm saying...Be careful.......

Sorry for being the buzzkill.

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Fluffy
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05/10/2018 11:40 am  

I hear you smellycat, for sure.

This was basically just a cycle discussion thread, until we started discussing first timer cycles.

I'm sure there's dozens out there thinking about what cycle to choose, so I thought it would be nice to discuss and recommend eachothers favourites


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jboldman
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05/10/2018 12:31 pm  

Actually Fluffy, in your first post you said: "Cycle for a first timer", i am with smellycat here. THere is a huge difference between a cycle for a 240lb experienced user and a 160lb 1st timer. It really is unlikely that you can meaningfully discuss the two cycles in the same context.

jb


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Fluffy
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05/10/2018 1:18 pm  
Posted by: jboldman
Actually Fluffy, in your first post you said: "Cycle for a first timer", i am with smellycat here. THere is a huge difference between a cycle for a 240lb experienced user and a 160lb 1st timer. It really is unlikely that you can meaningfully discuss the two cycles in the same context.

jb

I did, but around here people don't change cycles that much. Most often only dosages.

And I know several people liking the different kind of cycles, just wondering what people think of them.


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jboldman
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05/10/2018 1:51 pm  

around here? as in where you live or this board? My experience is that newer users change up all the time whereas experieced uesrs change very little. In any case my point still stands. If you want to find out everyones favorite cycle why not start another thread to avoid confusion.

jb


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liftsiron
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05/10/2018 2:41 pm  

An extremely effective cycle for an advanced user.
Test E
Tren E
Masteron E

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Fluffy
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05/10/2018 3:20 pm  

jb: Overseas

liftsiron: Is there a spesific reason for stacking Testo and Mast? From what I know Masteron is a derivate from Testo., so basically it would be useless no? What results can you find from your stack?


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Seabiscuit Hogg
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05/10/2018 4:03 pm  

I wondered more about the logic of stacking masteron with tren, since they're very similar in effect. Tren is considered better for strength tho.

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