Update cycle 20w te...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Update cycle 20w test/deca

15 Posts
6 Users
0 Likes
4,234 Views
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

Well It's about 3 weeks ago that I started my 20w cycle.

I'm gaining weight like there's no tomorrow. I'm up 3,9kg
Dose first 2 weeks 250mg test/w + 100mg deca/w
3th week 125mg test + 100mg deca

I'm feeling moody and not so very well, anxious, flu like, must be the deca. Also my nipples are growing, no itchy feeling or sensetive feeling, no hard lumps, just big niples!

I think a leave the deca for what's it worth and just continue with test e. I seem to be holding a lot of water too.

Dose will be 250mg or 1ml Test E, wich is about 185mg "real" test without the esters ets. a week.

Also 25mg proviron ed and maybe formestane 250mg ed.

PCT Nolvadex 4 weeks.

Goal: increase performance, recovery, endurance, gain strenght and a bit FFM.

Any thoughts?

Grtz


   
Quote
tMQ
 tMQ
(@tmq)
Active Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 12
 

if i were you:

test 150mg/week [enough to speed-up recovery]
EQ 200mg/week [t increase endurance and strenght]
nandrolon [short ester] 50mg/week [dose for joints ]


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

I just going to do a low dose test e cycle. NO 19-nor for me

Also I read that proviron is not so good. What other anti-e should I take? Arimidex 1mg eod? nolvadex 10mg ed?


   
ReplyQuote
madtrack
(@madtrack)
Estimable Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 183
 

He did,nt mean 19nor(rubbish) He meant nandrolone phenyl. --short ester --low water --great 4 joints. M/track


   
ReplyQuote
Cauliflower Ear
(@cauliflower-ear)
Trusted Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 66
 

yeah npp is great for the joints....as is deca...but deca made me bloat like a puffer fish...for me the water retention would be from the deca not from the test...i usually dont bloat to bad from test...im on test cyp right now...which should hold the most water... but i dont...i would say that AIFM from the anafit store is better than priviron...just my experience...aifm really dried me out....but it does suppres cotisone as well....which i guess is a necessity for us endurance guys

Train Hard, Fight Hard, Party Hard


   
ReplyQuote
madtrack
(@madtrack)
Estimable Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 183
 

Endurance atheletes need cortisone,many riders use corticosteroids to assist performance,can be a major prob. if used regularly. Body builders and power lifters dont need it, it is their worst enemy. M/track


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

I can't get NPP. Also I want to keep it simple, see what test at low dose does. Maybe that's a better strategy then just stacking which I did before...

But I was thinking of using epo with the test, problem is how much epo with a steroid since test also increases hct...

BTW Test E dose will be 200/250mg/w (20 weeks), there is always a bit of oil left in the needles, also 250mg test e is about 185mg test total.

An anti-e: formestane ed or arimidex eod

Supplements: Venom hyperdrive (energie), sesaglow (sesamine), multi-vit.

Corticosteroids is something I don't want to try, I know epo and anabolics are also things you don't want to mess with but cortisone, STH, insulin, Igf-1, T3, clenbuterol etc. are things I don't want to try.

Grtz


   
ReplyQuote
Zircon
(@zircon)
Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 165
 

I'd just stick with the test.

lower it if need be, you can control your weight gain this way

why you running so long?

Whats your pct/hcg usage like?


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

I'm running it so long because my education/training is about that duration and I can't afford a dip.

I think I'll keep the test at 200mg/week, 250mg seems a bit to high cause I tend to bloat easy.

Pct is just nolvadex 4-6weeks.

Grtz


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

Week 4

Because I started lowering my cals and just take 200mg test enth/week I lost about 3lbs.
Also taking proviron and formestane at the moment, I'll replace this with femara 1.25mg eod.

Grtz


   
ReplyQuote
madtrack
(@madtrack)
Estimable Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 183
 
Posted by: Vegeta86
I'm running it so long because my education/training is about that duration and I can't afford a dip.

I think I'll keep the test at 200mg/week, 250mg seems a bit to high cause I tend to bloat easy.

Pct is just nolvadex 4-6weeks.

Grtz

Nolva only is a good choice,Clomid can be problematic .M/track


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

Idd, Clomid gives me harsh sides, such as depression etc.


   
ReplyQuote
jboldman
(@jboldman)
Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1450
 

keep an eye on your lipid profile if you take femara.

jb


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

That's why I take the sesamin, to keep my health.femara will be low dosed. max. 1.25mg eod.

I'm planning to use epo for 8 weeks. But at what dose? My hct levels are already a bit increased because of the test.

And the interaction with the venom hyperdrive, test and epo? Maybe a bit to much to handle?

Grtz


   
ReplyQuote
Vegeta86
(@vegeta86)
Eminent Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 20
Topic starter  

Hmm I'm just back from the army and I have probs with the shins, knees and ankles. I'm thinking of putting the deca back in.

Again 125mg test/week and 100mg deca/week.
Or should I take 200mg test/week to counter the libido probs from deca better?

I'll take extra vit b6 and ofcourse letrozole.

Supss: multi-vit, hyperdrive, sesamin.


   
ReplyQuote
Share: