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Masteron is a DHT derivative. Not a test derivative. But Dbol is and stack brilliantly with Test.  Test Deca Dbol is bread and butter for mass.  Test Tren Dbol also excellent.  Stacking a parent compound with an off shoot is not a waste of time.  Otherwise we would have 3 steroids to choose from.  Masteron is only like Tren in that it is a high Androgenic non aromatizing anti catabolic.  So is Primo,  Winny, Anavar, Proviron, Superdrol etc.   They are like Deca and EQ,  not really alike at all,  possibly interchangeable but so is everything if you ask the right person.  So the stack has test,  a 19nor, and a DHT derivative.  All with unique properties.  Add oral Winny and you’ve got the most popular precontest stack.  Why does it baffle you?

Posted by: Seabiscuit Hogg

I wondered more about the logic of stacking masteron with tren, since they're very similar in effect. Tren is considered better for strength tho.

They work very well together, in a synergetic kind of way.

IMO test and Tren Are pretty much the ultimate cycle.

jb

Posted by: jboldman

IMO test and tren are pretty much the ultimate cycle.

jb

I've been wanting to try this bad, but I'm worried about my temper. Maybe a light dose of tren the first time...Thoughts on dosage?

jb: What about Test, Tren and 6-8 weeks from PCT you put in some Masteron?

Also, what thoughts do people have on stacking Tren A/E with Parabolan(HHC)?

Posted by: smellycatt

I've been wanting to try this bad, but I'm worried about my temper. Maybe a light dose of tren the first time...Thoughts on dosage?

Tren is quite effective even at only 40-50 mgs eod.

That's what I was hoping you'd say. I have some waiting and I'm going to mix it in slow and see how I handle it. Thanks SH

i agree with SH, tren is amazing even at lower doses and , like most things, start low and see how you react. Adjust you next cycle accordingly.

I have never mixed masteron with tren before so can not venture to say, It hink lifts mentioned that it was a good combo.

jb

Yep. The ol "more is better" philosophy just don't hold water......
well sometimes it holds water.

If lifts says tren/masterol is a good stack, it probably is. I'm just one of those ppl who always wants to know why.

Anyone have experienced side-effects for each steroid? If so, what were they...on each drug?

i would suggest starting a new thread for htis question.

jb

I'm no threadwhore

BUMP!

Any first time user should also have the folllowing requirements:

1. Experience in lifting (at least 5 years varied on age)
2. Extensive knowledge of their diet and the way the body responds accordingly.
3. Extensive knowledge of the drugs and hormones they are going to use
4. Realistic expectations
5. The proper ancilaries to combat unwanted sides

The more you know the better you will be able to use performance enhancing items in a safe manner and also do such in a healthier way. You really should get bloodwork before, during, and after because as we all know you can really inflict damage on your liver and endocrine system in general.

That being said keep doing your homework before you take that first injection. You seem to be on the right path. Also being a first cycle 250 mg of test per week would actually be more amazing than you think.

Your first cycle is your best cycle, don't dick around with it. 500mg test and 400mg EQ is not a big deal. My first was 500mg Sust and 400mg deca for 12weeks with 25mg Dbol ED for the first 4 weeks. If you want, you can drop the Tren, because it is the aspect that is unpredictable. If you insist on the Tren, then maybe 50mg EOD.

That would be a good first cycle, in my opinion. Have Exemestane or Arimidex on hand for sides and for post cycle recovery. Also, count on having HCG and Clomid for post cycle.

Posted by: Gino_ny2az

Have Exemestane or Arimidex on hand for sides and for post cycle recovery.

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Arimidex for post cycle recovery?