low dose test and PCT
For a cycle of Test Cyp(125mg/week) for 12 weeks what PCT would you guys recommend? and what are your views about a make the cycle longer 18-20 wks?
Disclamier - I did do a search prior to posting the question but did not get specific info
It kind of looks like you will be staying "on" for your whole season, or at least most of it. I would say that PCT will be necessary, but feel that it is necessary in most instances. What is your past cycle history? Is this a first cycle? Personally, for endurance, I prefer Clomid over Nolva, but either would do the trick. Wait 10 days after last shot then start standard 4 week PCT.
I've seen data indicating shutdown within 3 weeks at that dose. I don't see a point in cycling at that low dosage level. If you're going to stay on HRT it makes sense; otherwise I would suggest 200mg/week or higher....but that's just me.
Unless you have normal low Testosterone you're not really going to be running anything higher than what your normal production is
Thanks for the feedback. Not my first cycle. Have done several cycles before but at higher doses (test + eq) along with PCT (hcg + nolv). I guess I was hoping to get away without PCT with this low dose. Based on your comments I will go with HCG and Clomid
I hear you, but after such a long bout, the extra inscurance provided by PCT will pay off. As some of the others have noted, you may want to play with the dosage some. A possible stategy could be to use a little extra on hard training/racing weeks, prop is great for this as it is easier to control. AAS use is a balancing act for us endurance guys, if we use a lil to much, your off the back. I am "good" in the 150mg/week range for test. I have found this to be the dosage where I personally don't gain weight, and actually do lean out a bit, but am able to recover very quickly.
Hey Guys thanks for all your input. I hear about what you are saying about the dose. The reason 125mg was chosen was based on past experince. Previous experince with 200-300 mg Test Prop resulted in significant weight gain (along with a very painful backside). This current dose of 125 test cyp has had very little effect on weight but has had a very positive effect on recovery and on hard training days I feel as if I can rip the cranks off (this is also supported by increase power data from SRM)
Yes i also find prop 50mg 3xp/w is great for reco.I dont expect strength gains from it ,it more than replaces the test i have lost during hard training.If u have had strength gains from 125mg cyp p/w then u must have had a low test level B4. If i was going to use test for strength i would use 500-750mg p/w at. M/track