Returning Hormone levels to normal  

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madspin
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04/09/2019 8:44 am  

A buddy of mine is trying to convince me that there is a suplement that you can pick up at GNC that after a cycle is completed, will get your natural Test levels back to normal. Is there any truth to this?


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Badlands
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04/09/2019 9:15 am  

HCG, Nolvadex, and clomid along with proper PCT protocol are not found over the counter at GNC...unless something has changed overnight that I am not aware of. Clue me in if I'm mistaken. thank you.


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jboldman
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04/09/2019 9:35 am  

NO.

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liftsiron
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04/09/2019 9:54 am  
Posted by: Badlands
HCG, nolvadex, and Clomid along with proper PCT protocol are not found over the counter at GNC...unless something has changed overnight that I am not aware of. Clue me in if I'm mistaken. thank you.

I agree with you. Nothing at GNC.

liftsiron is a fictional character and should be taken as such.


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guijr
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04/09/2019 10:15 am  

I never brought a damn thing at GNC, it sucks.

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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MrAnderson
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04/09/2019 10:38 am  

They do carry 6-oxo which is an estrogen inhibitor that used to be used post cycle when they sold pro hormones. They stopped selling the pro hormones but still sell the 6-oxo. I do not know how well it works though. Maybe someone more knowledgable about this can key in.


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04/09/2019 11:03 am  

the 6-OXO is like anything else, it works but on such a small scale it is not worth it. HCG is by far the way to go when going for a speedy hormone level recovery and guess what, GNC dont sell it! Please do the world a favor and stop buying things from GNC everyone.
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Badlands
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04/09/2019 11:27 am  

Remember the days when GNC sold androstenedione?


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madspin
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09/09/2019 11:39 am  

I have enough Nolvadex and clomid for about 2 weeks. This is just what my guy gave me with my last batch of gear. It's been a little over 2 weeks since my final injection of 250mg per week of test. (12 weeks)

Not sure if this is enough, but the guy I've delt with sucks and I won't working with him in the future.


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Bilter
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09/09/2019 12:10 pm  

that will not be enough. Go to the GrowXXLGear store and get what you need. One bottle of each will be sufficient for week (1) 40mg nolva, 100mg Clomid PD then 20 and 50 respectively for the next 3 weeks.

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09/09/2019 12:29 pm  

J Sex Med. 2005 Sep;2(5):716-21.

clomiphene citrate effects on testosterone/estrogen ratio in male hypogonadism.

Shabsigh A, Kang Y, Shabsign R, Gonzalez M, Liberson G, Fisch H, Goluboff E.

Department of Urology, NY Presbyterian Medical Center, New York, NY, USA.

AIM: Symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism is associated not only with a decline in serum testosterone, but also with a rise in serum estradiol. These endocrine changes negatively affect libido, sexual function, mood, behavior, lean body mass, and bone density. Currently, the most common treatment is exogenous Testosterone therapy. This treatment can be associated with skin irritation, gynecomastia, nipple tenderness, testicular atrophy, and decline in sperm counts. In this study we investigated the efficacy of clomiphene citrate in the treatment of hypogonadism with the objectives of raising endogenous serum testosterone (T) and improving the testosterone/estrogen (T/E) ratio. METHODS: Our cohort consisted of 36 Caucasian men with hypogonadism defined as serum testosterone level less than 300 ng/dL. Each patient was treated with a daily dose of 25 mg clomiphene citrate and followed prospectively. Analysis of baseline and follow-up serum levels of testosterone and estradiol levels were performed. RESULTS: The mean age was 39 years, and the mean pretreatment testosterone and estrogen levels were 247.6 +/- 39.8 ng/dL and 32.3 +/- 10.9, respectively. By the first follow-up visit (4-6 weeks), the mean testosterone level rose to 610.0 +/- 178.6 ng/dL (P < 0.00001). Moreover, the T/E ratio improved from 8.7 to 14.2 (P < 0.001). There were no side effects reported by the patients. CONCLUSIONS: Low dose clomiphene citrate is effective in elevating serum testosterone levels and improving the testosterone/estradiol ratio in men with hypogonadism. This therapy represents an alternative to testosterone therapy by stimulating the endogenous androgen production pathway.

Fertil Steril. 2006 Nov;86(5):1513.e5-9.

Complete reversal of adult-onset isolated hypogonadotropic hypogonadism with clomiphene citrate.

Ioannidou-Kadis S, Wright PJ, Neely RD, Quinton R.

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http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/Fo...&threadid;=18283

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madspin
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09/09/2019 12:50 pm  
Posted by: Bilter
that will not be enough. Go to the CEM store and get what you need. One bottle of each will be sufficient for week (1) 40mg nolva, 100mg Clomid PD then 20 and 50 respectively for the next 3 weeks.

What is the CEM store?


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madspin
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09/09/2019 1:11 pm  

What's the worse case? How long till my levels come back. What does it do to my training while waiting?

I've trusted a guy that's obviously let me down.


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guijr
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09/09/2019 1:28 pm  
Posted by: madspin
What's the worse case? How long till my levels come back. What does it do to my training while waiting?

I've trusted a guy that's obviously let me down.

Gotta test total test levels, LH, FSH, DHT, Prolactin and E2 bro, and check the symptoms and signs (eg. morning woods, well being, happiness, lean mass, body fat, strength and endurance) of normal hormonal system as well.

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guijr
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09/09/2019 1:50 pm  
Posted by: madspin
I have enough nolvadex and Clomid for about 2 weeks. This is just what my guy gave me with my last batch of gear. It's been a little over 2 weeks since my final injection of 250mg per week of test. (12 weeks)

Not sure if this is enough, but the guy I've delt with sucks and I won't working with him in the future.

Tell us what did you achieve with this dose, please.

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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