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jdemon519
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Bros, I did my search but I have found conflicting views on the subject.I just got done with my Enanthate and I am finishing up with Propionate 100mg EOD.Now, when does HCG come into play and what are the dosages? BTW it's a 17 week cycle.Also, should I start clomid 3 days after I am done with Propionate?appreciate the help.


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rebeldagg
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i've found this way good. hcg two weeks after last shot. then clomid after the hcg. 300mg day one 2-7 100mg, 8-14 50mg?


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So I should start HCG while I am already doing the Clomid? Since Propionate has got a short half-life, I am gonna start Clomid after 3 days of the last shot.Bump for more responses.


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swollnutz
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wht about using hcg during the cycle?


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littlewilly
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Originally posted by swollnutz wht about using hcg during the cycle? That is the only time I would ever use it.


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more info as i'm thinking about it as i don't want all the slutz to see shrunken brothers


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RE-POST: (was thread few days ago) 1. HCG during short cycles could do more harm than good " if you run hcg on short cycles or too late in a cycle it could cause counter-productive results.the hcg will make your body "think" its functioning correctly and the clomid will not work! " 2. HCG is beneficial on LONG cycles but with dosages at under 1000 IU per day spaced 2 or 3 times per week " hcg only mimics (pretends) NTRto avoid testicular atrophy. if you were to shut your natural test production down for a full yr , your body could shut it down permenently. hcg tricks your body into thinking it is producing Testosterone and keeps them from shutting down." 3. Clomid during a cycle is a waste " When the level of androgens in the body get too high, the androgen receptor becomes more highly activated, and the hypothalamus stops sending a signal to the pituitary. In short the signal tells our body to stop producing testosterone. During a cycle the body has higher levels than normal of androgens and as long as this level is high enough clomid will not help to keep natural test production up. It will be almost all but completely shut off. The only purpose of clomid during a cycle is as an anti-estrogen. " 4. HCG at the end of a cycle will do more harm than good " HCG post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production. From the above discussion it is clear that HCG is best used during a cycle to avoid testicular atrophy. " FROM " HCG Info & Usage" by XCEL 5. We should end the cycle only with CLOMID " read post cycle clomid terapy by XCEL "


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