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Deca-Durabolin and test levels


guijr
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Does Deca-Durabolin increase Testosterone levels? Thanks.

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guijr
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Thanks, I've been looking for any paper related to the subject, but nada .

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ok, ask and ye shall receive. The classic (and oft quoted) minto study exams this in great detail. you can read the study here:
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/281/1/93.full

Credit for this find must go to Nandi and you can read the thread here:
https://www.growxxl.com/steroids/nandrolone-hpta-suppression

the graph demonstrating the effect on test levels after nandrolone administration shows the suppression rather well. this is the caption of the graph:
Time course of plasma testosterone concentrations in 23 healthy men over 32 days after i.m. injection of 100 mg of nandrolone phenylpropionate in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle into the gluteal muscle (group 1) () or injection of 100 mg of nandrolone decanoate into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 2) (), into the gluteal muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 3) () or into the deltoid muscle in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle (group 4) (). Results expressed as mean and S.E.M., unless the S.E. is smaller than the symbol.

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guijr
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Very good, but imagine in a cycle of test and Deca, okay? Will deca"steal" some of the testosterone potency? Will Deca decrease test levels even in a AS cycle?

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guijr
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And I'm not talking about HPTA supression as I'm already shut.

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if you look at that graph you will see that deca shuts you down pretty hard after a singe 100mg injection. It is unlikely that with the amounts i believe you want to use deca will make the test any less effective and i for one would never do a deca cycle without test.

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guijr
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Okay, maybe I'm just getting paranoid with this Deca-kidnapping-Test thing.

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guijr
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Maybe Black Baccara and BC would chime in.

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sometime we can loose sight of the forest because of the trees. At the end of the day, a cycle with deca in it works. it will work better with test, and if you increase the dose of each, it will work better still!

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Posted by: guijr
Maybe Black Baccara and BC would chime in.

I'd like to help but what is the question ?


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guijr
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Posted by: Black Baccara
I'd like to help but what is the question ?

Please, see posts #1 and #5.

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T and N will compete for the AR, SHBG, aromatase, 5-a reductase etc but N will not directly impair T blood level.


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