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02/11/2018 5:07 pm  

Help a this senior member looking for some help regarding Anavar .

1. Does Var make you sick like Anadrol does?

2. How long should it be run? If used for just a few weeks (say 4 to 6), so should it be run in the beginning or in the end of a cycle?

3. What would be a good dose for a novice male like me (but remember that it's not my first cycle).

4. Should I split the doses? If so, how?

Thanks a lot.

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02/11/2018 5:59 pm  

Re: Oxandrolone questions

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Help a this senior member looking for some help regarding Anavar .

1. Does Var make you sick like Anadrol does?

2. How long should it be run? If used for just a few weeks (say 4 to 6), so should it be run in the beginning or in the end of a cycle?

3. What would be a good dose for a novice male like me (but remember that it's not my first cycle).

4. Should I split the doses? If so, how?

Thanks a lot.

Probably not much help, but anyway....

1 - Don't know, never took Anadrol

2- At week 5 it started giving me strong headaches at 50 mg. 100 mg did it in about 3 weeks

3- 50 mg should be ok, in my experience. Depend on what you want really.

4 - I wouldn't. As far as I remember it has a reasonably long half life.


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02/11/2018 6:32 pm  

Re: Oxandrolone questions

Posted by: guijr
Help a this senior member looking for some help regarding Anavar .

1. Does Var make you sick like Anadrol does?

2. How long should it be run? If used for just a few weeks (say 4 to 6), so should it be run in the beginning or in the end of a cycle?

3. What would be a good dose for a novice male like me (but remember that it's not my first cycle).

4. Should I split the doses? If so, how?

Thanks a lot.

I never experienced sickness with var. have run up to 60mg PD

I never run it over 5 weeks, always at the beginning of a cycle

I would not bother to split the dose, I tend to get very busy during the day and do not feel the benefits of splitting outway the risk of forgetting (which is a 90+ % chanve for me).

Keep in mind it does wreek havoc on HDL numbers


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02/11/2018 7:13 pm  

Re: Oxandrolone questions

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Help a this senior member looking for some help regarding Anavar .

1. Does Var make you sick like Anadrol does?

2. How long should it be run? If used for just a few weeks (say 4 to 6), so should it be run in the beginning or in the end of a cycle?

3. What would be a good dose for a novice male like me (but remember that it's not my first cycle).

4. Should I split the doses? If so, how?

Thanks a lot.

1. I don't know about Anadrol, personally, but Oxandrolone gave me absolutely no problems at 90mg/day.

2. Either will work. I'd prefer to end with it, since it is non-aromatizable. E.g., I'd take it for the last 2-4 dosing weeks of the cycle, and then two more weeks, as the Test clears, before starting PCT. For the beginning of the cycle, something cheap and aromatizable, like D-bol, would do fine (as would nothing at all oral, for that matter.)

3. If you are going to use it (i.e. pay through the nose for it,) you may as well use enough to make it worthwhile. I wouldn't do less than 50-60 mg/day, and my preference would be for something closer to 100 mg/day.

4. My recollection is 8-9 hour half-life. My preference would be to split doses (e.g., 30 mg tid, as I have done,) but maybe it makes no real difference, as the others seem to think.

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02/11/2018 8:14 pm  

Re: Oxandrolone questions

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Help a this senior member looking for some help regarding Anavar .

1. Does Var make you sick like Anadrol does?

2. How long should it be run? If used for just a few weeks (say 4 to 6), so should it be run in the beginning or in the end of a cycle?

3. What would be a good dose for a novice male like me (but remember that it's not my first cycle).

4. Should I split the doses? If so, how?

Thanks a lot.

1.) At the doses most use, probably not. Anadrol is routinely run at 100mgs+ a day, and this is where most begin to experience sides (I'm included in the group). Var uses tend to stay well below this number.

2.) I don't prefre orals, so if you are determined to use, then I would recommend keeping it at or under 6 weeks.

3.) I found results under 80mgs a day unsatisfactory.

4.) No need to split in more than 2 doses daily. Nevertheless, I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference in terms of results.

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02/11/2018 9:08 pm  

and therein is the rub, a lot of guys say do a minimum of 80mg a day to see good results but at 80mg a day you are going to see adverse effects to your liver. when you have such easy access to test i see no convincing reason to go to 17aas.

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02/11/2018 10:04 pm  

Re: Re: Oxandrolone questions

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I never experienced sickness with var. have run up to 60mg PD

I never run it over 5 weeks, always at the beginning of a cycle

I would not bother to split the dose, I tend to get very busy during the day and do not feel the benefits of splitting outway the risk of forgetting (which is a 90+ % chanve for me).

Keep in mind it does wreek havoc on HDL numbers

Why always in the beginning? Why not in the end for some fat burning properties?

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02/11/2018 10:55 pm  

Re: Re: Oxandrolone questions

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I never experienced sickness with var. have run up to 60mg PD

I never run it over 5 weeks, always at the beginning of a cycle

I would not bother to split the dose, I tend to get very busy during the day and do not feel the benefits of splitting outway the risk of forgetting (which is a 90+ % chanve for me).

Keep in mind it does wreek havoc on HDL numbers

Have you ever experienced HDL issues while on Var? Any recommendation to avoid this negative adaptation?

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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02/11/2018 11:39 pm  

Re: Re: Oxandrolone questions

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1. I don't know about Anadrol, personally, but Oxandrolone gave me absolutely no problems at 90mg/day.

2. Either will work. I'd prefer to end with it, since it is non-aromatizable. E.g., I'd take it for the last 2-4 dosing weeks of the cycle, and then two more weeks, as the Test clears, before starting PCT. For the beginning of the cycle, something cheap and aromatizable, like D-bol, would do fine (as would nothing at all oral, for that matter.)

3. If you are going to use it (i.e. pay through the nose for it,) you may as well use enough to make it worthwhile. I wouldn't do less than 50-60 mg/day, and my preference would be for something closer to 100 mg/day.

4. My recollection is 8-9 hour half-life. My preference would be to split doses (e.g., 30 mg tid, as I have done,) but maybe it makes no real difference, as the others seem to think.

GL.

TID?

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03/11/2018 12:23 am  
Posted by: jboldman
and therein is the rub, a lot of guys say do a minimum of 80mg a day to see good results but at 80mg a day you are going to see adverse effects to your liver. when you have such easy access to test i see no convincing reason to go to 17aas.

jb

Thanks JB. Wanted give it a try first for the sake of experimentation, and second for its said fat burning properties (I know some people that use it and have low levels of body fat).

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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03/11/2018 1:13 am  

Re: Re: Re: Oxandrolone questions

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TID?

TID = 3 x daily.

BTW, I am skeptical of the common belief that Var has any particular fat-burning properties (over and above other AAS.) And even if I am wrong and it somehow does, those fat-burning qualities can't possibly be dramatic enough to justify Ox's use (cost) on that basis alone. Surely, there is an easier, cheaper way?

For me, Oxandrolone is just a very expensive alternative to Stonazolol, but one which doesn't make my hair fall out in handfulls. (Test doesn't make me lose hair at all, but winny does... go figure.)


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03/11/2018 1:56 am  

Re: Re: Re: Oxandrolone questions

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Have you ever experienced HDL issues while on Var? Any recommendation to avoid this negative adaptation?

Yes I have. During a recent cycle (well last year) my precycle lipid profile was something like TC 211, HDL 82, LDL 114. After 2 weeks on var at 30mg PD my TC dropped to 158 but most of that was due to the drop in HDL from 82 down to 26. To help maintian healthy lipid profile I was also using 20mg nolva PD, 20mg of policonsonol PD and niacin 600mg PD as well as cardio. I do not know if there is anyway of keeping HDL numbers higher but if you think of a way please share.

As far as beginning vs end of cycle I would be willing to try it at the end its just that at 41 I am pretty set in my ways and have difficulty in changing some of my habbits. But, I will say I rarely use AA-17 at all anymore due to the sides I cannot control. The only reason I will do var again is to get rid of the rest that I have. It cost too much to toss.

One more thing, IMO opinion tren is a good alternative to var in regards to effects.


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03/11/2018 2:51 am  

Bilter, nice to know about Tren. Maybe I'm just getting crazy about getting rid of the rest of my belly fat.

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03/11/2018 3:33 am  
Posted by: guijr
Bilter, nice to know about Tren. Maybe I'm just getting crazy about getting rid of the rest of my belly fat.

tren will help with that also. In fact probably better than var


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