Clen :)

Or winny?

depends what your goals are? what are you looking to get?

well they are 2 totally different drugs also .. ones a steroid and ones not ...

I'm looking to burn fat faster then I have been and get more tone.

Just use them both,clen for the fat burning and winny for the maintaining of the muscle mass. But to answer your question, yes it works fine. Would only use clen when stacked with an aas, as it may eat away to much muscle without (my personal experience). So just combine the both to get excellent results with low risks.

Sincerely,

HL

Starlet,

Most of what you need to know regarding clen is on this article:

https://www.growxxl.com/weight-loss/clenbuterol

If you still have questions about it once you are done reading, let me know...

do your research though before you do the winny.. aas in a females body is a whole different ballgame ....

What about t3 and clen ?

well thankyou all but if anybody has any suggestions or anything you can email me, thankyou.

[email protected]

Well.. it seems that bosshog knows a detail I didn't... starlet... my Clen article applies to both (male/female); but if you are a female, then consult on the female forums in regards to doing any AAS...

But... for the most part, I think that clen and a low dose of t3 works like a charm for females...

Posted by: Starlet

I'm looking to burn fat faster then I have been and get more tone.

I would look into an Anavar and clen cycle before going to winny. its a safer AS for woman.

i used to be a fan of clen but since reading this study have discontinued its use. I understand the difficulty in applying rat studies to humans but the chances here are too great to risk.

jb

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J Appl Physiol. 2002 Nov;93(5):1824-32. Related Articles, Links

Myotoxic effects of clenbuterol in the rat heart and soleus muscle.

Burniston JG, Ng Y, Clark WA, Colyer J, Tan LB, Goldspink DF.

Research Institute for Sport and Exercise Sciences, Liverpool John Moores University, Liverpool L3 2ET, United Kingdom. [email protected]

Myocyte-specific necrosis in the heart and soleus muscle of adult male Wistar rats was investigated in response to a single subcutaneous injection of the anabolic beta(2)-adrenergic receptor agonist clenbuterol. Necrosis was immunohistochemically detected by administration of a myosin antibody 1 h before the clenbuterol challenge and quantified by using image analysis. Clenbuterol-induced myocyte necrosis occurred against a background of zero damage in control muscles. In the heart, the clenbuterol-induced necrosis was not uniform, being more abundant in the left subendocardium and peaking 2.4 mm from the apex. After position (2.4 mm from the apex), dose (5 mg clenbuterol/kg), and sampling time (12 h) were optimized, maximum cardiomyocyte necrosis was found to be 1.0 +/- 0.2%. In response to the same parameters (i.e., 5 mg of clenbuterol and sampled at 12 h), skeletal myocyte necrosis was 4.4 +/- 0.8% in the soleus. These data show significant myocyte-specific necrosis in the heart and skeletal muscle of the rat. Such irreversible damage in the heart suggests that clenbuterol may be damaging to long-term health.

Clen can't hold a candle to an ECA stack, which we have discussed here several times. You basically get 2 weeks of effectiveness with clen, and then you need to take a month off. an ECA stack (like Lipoxene, which we have here at CEM) actually improves over time by raising T3 levels.

yeah clen has too much hype, I just finished trying it and am not impressed at all.

i've been using ephedrine and caffeine though.