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Although test to estro conversion on primobolan isn't a concern, I'm wondering if I should use nolva to try to bring back hpta to normal. I'm no chemist, but I've read that nolva is useful for this purpose.

On the other hand, after reading
https://thinksteroids.com/articles/inhibition-and-recovery-of-natural-testosterone-production/

Bill Roberts writes that:

"Use an amount and kind of AAS that is low enough to avoid much inhibition. Primobolan at 200-400 mg/week may achieve this effect. Again, gains will be compromised compared to a more substantial cycle. Testosterone esters and deca are substantially inhibitory even at 100 mg/week so using a low dose of these drugs will simply result in both inhibition and poor gains."

200-400 mg of primo he speak of is obviously intravenous..whereas I have orals. With the liver deactivating at least have of the orals consumed, a dose comparable to the one he speaks of would be double, or 800 mg. This is a little less than what I'm on. I've been taking 125 mg a day as part of a short but intense cutting cycle. 3 weeks on I've gained 2 reps and lost 4-5 lbs. But I digress..My main question is, approximately to what extent is my HPTA shut down. I've read moderate doses of primo can shut it down 50-60 %.

I also keep reading that primo doesn't need PCT. I don't buy that. I wonder if Nolva would help at the end of this cycle? I have 50 20mg Nolvas on hand.

So far it's what I've expected..it's good for cutting on a reduced calorie diet. The only sides I've had are light acne on the back and a little bit of extra "assertiveness." I've had no interuption of libido, no hair issues, no change in blood pressure. I've just been washing my hair with nizoral and taking saw palmetto.

Thanks in advance.

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Posted by: @fasttwitch

200-400 mg of primo he speak of is obviously intravenous..whereas

I think you mean IM, I would strech out the cycle for more than 3 weeks to start just to get all the gains I could. Also, I tend to take something post cycle reguardless, I may be wrong to do that this but I would use some PCT.

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(@fasttwitch)
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Posted by: @aleutianislands

Posted by: @fasttwitch

200-400 mg of primo he speak of is obviously intravenous..whereas

I think you mean IM, I would strech out the cycle for more than 3 weeks to start just to get all the gains I could. Also, I tend to take something post cycle reguardless, I may be wrong to do that this but I would use some PCT.

Whoops..intramuscular..Lol.. I agree with you. I'll start the nolva the day I end the cycle and run it probably 2 weeks.

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Bill roberts also writes in the same article: Many bodybuilders have come to believe that elevated estrogen levels alone are the sole cause of inhibition, and believe that by blocking estrogen, they can block inhibition. This is not true. so the aswer to your question is yes use nolva 10-20mg for pct


   
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(@fasttwitch)
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Thanks guys for the input. Much appreciated.


   
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