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luther
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I recently had to stop a 10 week cycle of test/Tren And winny at week 5 because my cholesterol and liver enzymes went through the roof. I was planning on using clomid for 4 weeks of PCT but I've been reading that Clomid can be harsh on the liver too. I was also taking armidex everyday with this cycle. What do I do now for PCT? I haven't taken a shot of test/tren or winny for two weeks come wednesday which is when I'm suspose to start my PCT. I currently have Clomid and armidex in stock.


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Re: PCT and liver enzymes

Posted by: luther
I recently had to stop a 10 week cycle of test/tren and winny at week 5 because my cholesterol and liver enzymes went through the roof. I was planning on using Clomid for 4 weeks of PCT but I've been reading that Clomid can be harsh on the liver too. I was also taking armidex everyday with this cycle. What do I do now for PCT? I haven't taken a shot of test/tren or winny for two weeks come wednesday which is when I'm suspose to start my PCT. I currently have Clomid and armidex in stock.

The winny was the main culprit in both liver enzymes and lipid levels, personally I won't touch that shit ever agin. I would run a Clomid pct as you normally would and supplement with NAC, niacin and policosanol to get your liver and lipids back on track.

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The winny was the main culprit in both liver enzymes and lipid levels, personally I won't touch that shit ever agin. I would run a Clomid pct as you normally would and supplement with NAC, niacin and policosanol to get your liver and lipids back on track.

It's amazing how pop W is in my country, that's too bad. And just wondering how much NAC a day should he use.

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It's amazing how pop W is in my country, that's too bad. And just wondering how much NAC a day should he use.

I would use 2 grams.

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Wouldnt pct on just nolva be better as far as Lipid profiles, If Im
not mistaken it is supposed to enhance lipids?

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Wouldnt pct on just nolva be better as far as Lipid profiles, If Im
not mistaken it is supposed to enhance lipids?

A-Steel

It may help some but I wouldn't expect to much.

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Re: Re: PCT and liver enzymes

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The winny was the main culprit in both liver enzymes and lipid levels, personally I won't touch that shit ever agin. I would run a Clomid pct as you normally would and supplement with NAC, niacin and policosanol to get your liver and lipids back on track.

So I'll supplement NAC, niacin and policosanol as you said for 4 weeks and runn 100 mgs of Clomid the first 2 weeks and 50mgs the last 2 weeks?


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yeh. I bet it was the winny, and maybe a little bit the tren. But 80% winny.


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Re: Re: Re: PCT and liver enzymes

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So I'll supplement NAC, niacin and policosanol as you said for 4 weeks and runn 100 mgs of Clomid the first 2 weeks and 50mgs the last 2 weeks?

The Clomid is cool other supps should be run much longer imo.

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luther
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Thanks bro. I'll try that out. I will be getting another liver enzyme test in a couple of weeks so hopefully this will help. I'm just nervous about the liver enzymes with the Clomid.


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Thanks bro. I'll try that out. I will be getting another liver enzyme test in a couple of weeks so hopefully this will help. I'm just nervous about the liver enzymes with the Clomid.

How high were yours and did they test GGK? ALT and AST don't mean to much in most cases.

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luther
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I don't know the exact numbers but I thought that the doc said that they were almost double what they should be. He tested ALT and AST and a couple other of the liver enzymes that I can't remember off the top of my head. He also said that after we re test in a couple of weeks he's sending me to see a gasto-ologist or something like that.


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hm, double is not really that high. see if you can pick uo some liv-52, it works really well for me.

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guijr
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Man, IMO you gotta have in your hands those numbers.

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ast and alt can also be elevated by weightlifting which disturbs cellular metabolism. also, use caution with niacin as it also can raise your liver enzyme values!


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