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(@iron-irish)
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Never used pct in past(none of my gym connects had it)I know pct during cycle is to combat side effects,but what about actual POST cycle therapy.is that mostly to help keep gains?did test E 5 years ago little nipple soreness,maybe slight drop in libido after but not much and not for long.based on this info,if iwas going to do 500mgs test E8wks with a 4wk d-bol kickstart what would be a good pct for this be?Also If I used pct could I run it longer.Not a pro just looking to bulk up a bit and keep as much as possible.

any info appreciated(pct newbiee)
iron irish


   
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(@moe-mentum)
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I am by no means an expert and you can def get more technical and advanced.
However I am fairly confident that you can get away with 40mg of Nolva ed,
2-3 weeks after your last shot for 4 weeks.

Thats as simple as it gets.
There are more advanced PCT methods however.


   
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(@iron-irish)
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Thanx for answering Mo.I was wondering though,is pct to help maintain gains only or are there healyh benefits too?Also when I here about nolva possibly REDUCING gains,are they talking about when its taken DURING cycle?

thanx again,
Irish


   
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Al Shaw
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Hey bro.
The purpose of PCT Post Cycle Therapy is to get your endocrine system back to normal as soon as possible.
During your cycle, your body had an over abundance of anabolic/androgenic hormones which in conjunction with good nutrition and resistance training..... resulted in not only lean tissue growth, but with your endocrine system shutting down the process of natural testosterone production (among other things).
Your body does not like change.... is does not want to assimilate the new lean tissue (muscle).... it would rather just burn it for fuel... and get things back to how they were a few months ago.
PCT is important in that it blocks or defends against the natural responses of your body after stopping the use of aas.

I personally am a fan of clomid.
Not only does it aid in blocking the receptors from being flooded with estrogen, but also ... in so many words... can have your gonads up and running, producing natural test in a week or so.

I like to advize running Clomid like this:
week 1: 50mgs / day
week 2: 100mgs / day
week 3: 50mgs / day

hope this helps.


   
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(@hardcorpcomp)
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The one other factor that often gets overlooked on PCT is that your cortisol levels go through the roof when you come off a cycle. This means that your muscle may and will go into a deconstrutive phase until your levels return to normal. good cortisol blockers that will help in minimizing any muscle loss is clen or ephadrine. Clen is very effective at blocking cortisol and 3-4 weeks of a reasonable dose will help in reducing cortisol until your body levels off. Ephedrine does not have as much of an effect but will still go a long way in helping. The one thing you may notice is that if you take these fat burners(on a very reasonable dose) it may seem like you are losing muscle but you are really dropping some bodyfat while holding on to as much muscle as possible.


   
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(@iron-irish)
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Great info guys.Much thanx!

Irish


   
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(@iron-irish)
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one other thing though:would you suggest any dietary changes for pct to help retain gains/help get system"back to normal"?


   
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just be sure to keep your calories up and keep training hard. a lot of guys lose the dedication needed to maintain their diet and training when they come off


   
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Neverbig Enuf
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Hey bro.
The purpose of PCT Post Cycle Therapy is to get your endocrine system back to normal as soon as possible.
During your cycle, your body had an over abundance of anabolic/androgenic hormones which in conjunction with good nutrition and resistance training..... resulted in not only lean tissue growth, but with your endocrine system shutting down the process of natural testosterone production (among other things).
Your body does not like change.... is does not want to assimilate the new lean tissue (muscle).... it would rather just burn it for fuel... and get things back to how they were a few months ago.
PCT is important in that it blocks or defends against the natural responses of your body after stopping the use of aas.

I personally am a fan of clomid.
Not only does it aid in blocking the receptors from being flooded with estrogen, but also ... in so many words... can have your gonads up and running, producing natural test in a week or so.

I like to advize running Clomid like this:
week 1: 50mgs / day
week 2: 100mgs / day
week 3: 50mgs / day

hope this helps.

What do you recommend for between HRT and a cycle? Or, in that case is PCT even necessary as I will be on at least 250mg of cyp a week until death. Four months ago I "supersized" that to 1000mg a week with five weeks of Stanol followed by 5 weeks of oral Primo at 75-100mg daily. I have just come off the Primo and am still doing the 1000mg of Cyp. I am gyno prone, so have ben running 75 mg of Schering Provironum in 3 doses, daily. I usually use 40 mg of clen preworkout as I need the energy.
I also have a ready supply of tamoxifen and clen. Sitting here, ready for the next cycle are two bottles of oral oxymetholone (BD Androlic). What do you suggest?
Labs came back yesterday WNL (within normal limits). Milk thistle works wonders.
I am 53, 216 at about 10% BF, 5'10". No plans to compete as I am too scarred from all the surgery to the back and stomach. Cutting below 10% just brings out the laproscopic scars.
Thanks for the advice.


   
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