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(@danymal04)
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HERE IS ALL YOU NEED BASICALLY FOR EPO BUT NEVER STOP RESEARCHING FOR NEW THINGS. I MADE A LIST WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE INFO FROM CAULIFLOWER EAR AND THIS SITE, BUT I THOUGHT I'D SHARE. GOOD LUCK!

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Loading Phase: 10K IU every week for two weeks = 20K IU
By doing 3KIU EOD (1,500IU 2 x day on days you inject or 3 x 1Kiu) for two weeks to get crit close to 55%.

Maintenance Phase: 3000 IU every week

How long will the Ready Injects last: Fridge 1 ½ years/
Room Temp: 1 month

How long will 120,000IU last me? 6-12 Months

How long till you see effects: usually 2-3 weeks

How long will effects last after you stop using: 2-4 weeks

How long do you cycle: Usual usage is 4 months on/4off/4on

Cycle with Test Prop (OTHER AAS): Works synergy with EPO and other AAS

Other things to get: Zipocrit, Blood Pressure Monitor, B-Complex, Vitamin C, BABY Aspirin, Folic Acid, IRON

Zipocrit:
-Use in order to check your RBC 2x a week by drawing blood
-Make sure to not exceed 55%
-In order to check hematocrit levels before you start cycle
-Normal Hematocrit (Red Blood Cell) levels range from low 40's to around 50 (the number is based upon percentage in your blood, so a 50 HC level means your blood is 50%.
-Athletes typically shoot for a Hematocrit level of about 55 or slightly higher. Once, you approach 60, you are asking for trouble and is very dangerous.
-Everyone has different Crit levels, so this is a step that must not be skipped.

What your body uses to make red blood cells and use them correctly:
100mgs of Iron a day
1grams of Vitamin C 4x a day (1gram per 25mgs of Iron)
3x 400mcg of Folic acid per day
Shoot Vitamin B-Complex EOD 1ml (last 200 days or 5-6 months)
(1) Baby aspirin ED to keep blood slippery through capillaries (Important!)
Monitor your blood pressure throughout cycle
Make sure to always stay Hydrated as this can cause thinking of the blood!!

After 5 months or so you should go get your ferritin levels checked (iron levels): (to make sure you have the iron to keep making the extra epo)
You can do this at labsafe.com for 49 bucks


   
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Coppi
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I think it is important that everyone keep in mind these are GUIDELINES.

For me I am taking more Iron and more Iu's for loading with less results (3.5 weeks in, at a total of 40Kiu, my Hct has gone from 44 to 45.5)... I am getting ready to up my EOD dose to see if that helps but I wanted to be on the safe side since this is my first time.


   
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supplychain
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detection time of EPO IM injection?
Anyone?


   
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Epo shot subQ or IV only i beleive.

When is the best time to take asprins, morning or before bed??


   
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Posted by: supplychain
detection time of EPO IM injection?
Anyone?

Most people use EPO subcutaneous. Some use it intraveneously (a more technical method) but I've never heard of IM injections of epo.

I've read of varying detection times for subcutaneous (3 - 7 days) but have not seen any real studies.


   
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Guidelines...exactly.. this is for the person who ask's what to take along with E... what else to get.. aspirin I read should be taken before bed because your heart slows down at night.. although i know people who take it in the morning.. baby aspirin that is


   
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ghisallo_paul
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it doesnt matter when u take the aspirin, as long as u do daily.

It inhibits COX enzymes within blood platelets and stops them become sticky for want of another word.

Inhibition in platelets is non-reversible and thus low dose is perfect as it has little effect on other tissues cells within the body


   
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Cauliflower Ear
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yeah but for us guys that want to have a little more muscle on us...it also inhibits something called PGR or something...this is crucial for muscle building...so i am doing a baby asprin like eod...I am going back and forth with it....trying to find the best...but danny, for you bro, playing foot ball, you gotta keep the weight on obviously...so keep reading into it

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Cauliflower Ear
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oh yeah, and danny, remember bro, I have a naturally high hct like m/track....I am a 46-47 natural...m/track is 47-48...so it is obviously easier for us to get to 55% than it would be for someone who is a natural 40...for me...the stats above are true..i am at about 54%...it only took 2 weeks of shooting 3000k iu eod for me to get there....and I shoot 2000k iu e4d to stay there...this is me...everyone is different...good compalation though bro..im sure you helped some guys out!

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(@danymal04)
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Yeah, I'm sure it will take me a little more to get there but I won't be complaining once I get near 50-52.. I'll be chill with that. Sure no problem, I'm hear to learn and do my best at helping others out, so if this helped anyone else, I'm glad. Plus you guys may be running some gear along it and when I start, I won't be so I'm sure it won't be the same, like my guy Coppi and Cauli said, these are simple guidelines


   
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Cauliflower Ear
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danny, with a baseline of 41 like you...when you get to 45% you are gonna be loving it....then 48 you are gonna be an animal...then when you get in the 50's....fuck bro...i would love to come watch one of your games if you are gonna be on the West Coast!!!

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How long will effects last after you stop using: 2-4 weeks


I heard this often, but in my opinion this is not right.

The Effekt of E must be longer than 2-4 weeks after the last shot. The lifetime of the rbc are 80-120 days and the HCT will not go back to starting point in 2-4 weeks.

The lactate puffering (a great effekt of e) will be reduced some weeks after you stop using E. But you have still a higher O2 transport. Or not?


   
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madtrack
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Good post but we are all different I have found 20Kiu P/W 4 2weeks is the way to go +5% increase without fail.I have to maintain on 6Kiu every 5 day. 20Kiu x 2weeks is recomended by most "docs "etc.The Bcomp should be taken with B12 otherwise B12 will not work.M/track


   
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warmachine
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hey madtrack did u use the 50iu per kg to load up cause if u did then u are a similar weight to me. and did u do the 20,000iu a week in two shots or three in a week?

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(@danymal04)
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Posted by: madtrack
Good post but we are all different I have found 20Kiu P/W 4 2weeks is the way to go +5% increase without fail.I have to maintain on 6Kiu every 5 day. 20Kiu x 2weeks is recomended by most "docs "etc.The Bcomp should be taken with B12 otherwise B12 will not work.M/track

Did you mean to say B-Comp will not work unless taken with B12.. or B12 will not work without B Comp ?


   
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