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19/09/2019 3:11 pm  

What's up guys.I have been having trouble in the past with deca suppressive sides.I was reading dostinex was a good prolactin blocking agent.Has anybody had experience using dostinex while running deca?Can it reduce or eliminate deca dick??And would it reduce decas brutal effect on the HPTA axis...and Last dostinex was recently dubbed bad for your heart valves,but is that just with a Parkinson type dose long term thing?Thank you guys once again for reading and posting reply


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19/09/2019 3:37 pm  

Test should always be used with deca then you don't get the negative sides from deca.

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19/09/2019 3:53 pm  
Posted by: liftsiron
Test should always be used with deca then you don't get the negative sides from deca.

I should have asked in order of concern ,I'm sorry...I Am more concerned with decas effects on the hpta axis.would dostinex help ,making recovery easier???I am going to run a maintenance dose of test.But recovery from deca is brutal ..If your wondering why not use something else ,deca has no effect whatsoever on my hairline.and that is the main reason.I had some shedding from EQ to most peoples surprise but i did..


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19/09/2019 4:24 pm  
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I should have asked in order of concern ,I'm sorry...I Am more concerned with decas effects on the hpta axis.would dostinex help ,making recovery easier???I am going to run a maintenance dose of test.But recovery from deca is brutal ..If your wondering why not use something else ,deca has no effect whatsoever on my hairline.and that is the main reason.I had some shedding from eq to most peoples surprise but i did..

I like the results of a good test/deca cycle I run the test two weeks after I finish the deca and never had any problem with recovery. I would personally use both clomid and nolva for PCT.

2-3 weeks Clomid 100mgs nolva 40mgs then another 2-3 weeks of Clomid 50mgs and nolva 20mgs. I don't think that alot guys run pct long enough or at an adaquate dose.

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19/09/2019 4:48 pm  
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I like the results of a good test/deca cycle I run the test two weeks after I finish the deca and never had any problem with recovery. I would personally use both Clomid and nolva for PCT.

2-3 weeks Clomid 100mgs nolva 40mgs then another 2-3 weeks of Clomid 50mgs and nolva 20mgs. I don't think that alot guys run pct long enough or at an adaquate dose.

Thanks bro for the advice.I still have a tough time recovering for some reason.I don't know why deca is so suppressive .I read someplace and I can't seem to find it,that the progesterone elevation from nandrolone is the reason for the heavy suppression,so I thought the dostinex by keeping the progesterone \ prolactin in check would make deca less suppresive.I definitely am going to run my pct like you said maybe even a week or 2 longer.thanks again


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19/09/2019 5:07 pm  

B-6 at 400mgs ed works pretty good at controlling prolactin levels and is quite safe.

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19/09/2019 5:24 pm  

Re: dostinex and deca

Posted by: pitdawg
What's up guys.I have been having trouble in the past with deca suppressive sides.I was reading dostinex was a good prolactin blocking agent.


Dostinex blocks the body's own production of prolactin. I've never seen any proof that prolactin levels are raised on a deca cycle. There is more progesterone, but not prolactin. There is a difference between the two.

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Can it reduce or eliminate deca dick??


If you're taking test, as almost all AAS users do, then deca dick shouldn't be a problem. Nevertheless, the only reasoning or theory I've ever heard on deca dick was by Nandi, which concluded that the reason was a lack of NO2. If you add in test, you've got NO2.

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And would it reduce decas brutal effect on the HPTA axis...


Not in the slightest.

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and Last dostinex was recently dubbed bad for your heart valves,but is that just with a Parkinson type dose long term thing?Thank you guys once again for reading and posting reply

I think its popularity came about because supp companies saw that they could make a lot of money off ignorant AAS users who inaccurately attributed some side effects to prolactin.

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19/09/2019 5:49 pm  

Re: Re: dostinex and deca

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Dostinex blocks the body's own production of prolactin. I've never seen any proof that prolactin levels are raised on a deca cycle. There is more progesterone, but not prolactin. There is a difference between the two.

If you're taking test, as almost all AAS users do, then deca dick shouldn't be a problem. Nevertheless, the only reasoning or theory I've ever heard on deca dick was by Nandi, which concluded that the reason was a lack of NO2. If you add in test, you've got NO2.

Not in the slightest.

I think its popularity came about because supp companies saw that they could make a lot of money off ignorant AAS users who inaccurately attributed some side effects to prolactin.

Thanks for the reply to all my questions...I read as much as I can to learn before i jump in, I read that dostinex aka cabergoline can block progesterone ,I did not post the entire article to save space but i will just cut the section and paste it . also post the link below.I am not surprised if its bad info,if it were true it would seem promising to combat deca sides,thanks again . "The moral of this story? Always use Testosterone with your Deca! I suggest 200mgs, minimum, to avoid impotence and sexual dysfunction. For an anabolic effect from that Testosterone, I recommend at least double that, with an equal amount of deca (minimum). IŽd also recommend taking an anti-progesteronic drug with deca (or at least having it on hand): Cabergoline and Bromocriptine are both good choices"

http://www.steroid.com/Deca.ph p" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> http://www.steroid.com/Deca.php

1. Metabolism. 1990 Nov;39(11):1167-9
2. Effects of nandrolone decanoate on bone mineral content R, Righi GA, Turchetti V, Vattimo A.).
3. Cancer Res 1978 Nov;38(11 Pt 2):4186-98
4. (Charts) from Minto et al
5. AIDS. 1996 Jun;10(7):745-52
6. Sattler et al. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 283: e1214-22
7. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol. 1999 Feb 1;20(2):137-46.

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19/09/2019 6:12 pm  

Re: Re: Re: dostinex and deca

Posted by: pitdawg
I read that dostinex aka cabergoline can block progesterone

That's one piece of information you can disregard.

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19/09/2019 6:38 pm  

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That's one piece of information you can disregard.

Thank you for that is an important piece of information . boggles my mind how they put that stuff out there when its BS,on a steroid website to boot ... much appreciated!


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19/09/2019 7:08 pm  

Re: Re: dostinex and deca

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Dostinex blocks the body's own production of prolactin. I've never seen any proof that prolactin levels are raised on a deca cycle. There is more progesterone, but not prolactin. There is a difference between the two.

If you're taking test, as almost all AAS users do, then deca dick shouldn't be a problem. Nevertheless, the only reasoning or theory I've ever heard on deca dick was by Nandi, which concluded that the reason was a lack of NO2. If you add in test, you've got NO2.

Not in the slightest.

I think its popularity came about because supp companies saw that they could make a lot of money off ignorant AAS users who inaccurately attributed some side effects to prolactin.

I have monitored progesterone and prolactin levels during a deca cycle and their levels never increased.

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19/09/2019 7:26 pm  

Re: Re: Re: dostinex and deca

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I have monitored progesterone and prolactin levels during a deca cycle and their levels never increased.

More proof that dostinex does nothing.

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19/09/2019 7:48 pm  

Re: Re: Re: dostinex and deca

Posted by: guijr
I have monitored progesterone and prolactin levels during a deca cycle and their levels never increased.

Were you under the 400mg a week threshold?? And how long was the cycle,thank you for your reply.


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19/09/2019 8:06 pm  

Re: Re: Re: Re: dostinex and deca

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Were you under the 400mg a week threshold?? And how long was the cycle,thank you for your reply.

300 mg/week.

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19/09/2019 8:28 pm  

Oh, sorry my bad the cycle lasted 10 weeks.

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