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jboldman
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20/09/2019 8:04 am  

THis really goes to what the current thinking is over in the endurance forum.

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J Strength Cond Res. 2007 May;21(2):354-61. Links
The effect of short-term use of Testosterone Enanthate on muscular strength and power in healthy young men.Rogerson S, Weatherby RP, Deakin GB, Meir RA, Coutts RA, Zhou S, Marshall-Gradisnik SM.
Rogerson, S., R.P. Weatherby, G.B. Deakin, R.A. Meir, R.A. Coutts, S. Zhou, and S.M. Marshall-Gradisnik. The effect of short-term use of testosterone enanthate on muscular strength and power in healthy young men. J. Strength Cond. Res. 21(2):354-361. 2007.-Use of testosterone enanthate has been shown to significantly increase strength within 6-12 weeks of administration (2, 9), however, it is unclear if the ergogenic benefits are evident in less than 6 weeks. Testosterone enanthate is classified as a prohibited substance by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and its use may be detected by way of the urinary testosterone/epitestosterone (T/E) ratio (16). The two objectives of this study were to establish (a) if injection of 3.5 mg.kg(-1) testosterone enanthate once per week could increase muscular strength and cycle sprint performance in 3-6 weeks; and (b) if the WADA-imposed urinary T/E ratio of 4:1 could identify all subjects being administered 3.5 mg.kg(-1) testosterone enanthate. Sixteen healthy young men were match-paired and were assigned randomly in a double-blind manner to either a testosterone enanthate or a placebo group. All subjects performed a structured heavy resistance training program while receiving either testosterone enanthate (3.5 mg.kg(-1)) or saline injections once weekly for 6 weeks. One repetition maximum (1RM) strength measures and 10-second cycle sprint performance were monitored at the pre (week 0), mid (week 3), and post (week 6) time points. Body mass and the urinary T/E ratio were measured at the pre (week 0) and post (week 6) time points. When compared with baseline (pre), 1RM bench press strength and total work during the cycle sprint increased significantly at week 3 (p < 0.01) and week 6 (p < 0.01) in the testosterone enanthate group, but not in the placebo group. Body mass at week 6 was significantly greater than at baseline in the testosterone enanthate group (p < 0.01), but not in the placebo group. Despite the clear ergogenic effects of testosterone enanthate in as little as 3 weeks, 4 of the 9 subjects in the testosterone enanthate group ( approximately 44%) did not test positive to testosterone under current WADA urinary T/E ratio criteria.


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Realgains
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20/09/2019 8:26 am  

Good stuff JB!

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20/09/2019 8:48 am  

Amazing! Seems that low dose and short cycle really works. Doping is always cheating WADA.

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20/09/2019 9:17 am  

i wonder what dosage they were given. WHy does the study not state this???


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20/09/2019 9:37 am  

it does, 3.5mg/kg

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20/09/2019 10:05 am  

Indeed, it does. For me it's about 350 mg of test per week.

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20/09/2019 10:28 am  

lol...apologies...hal;f asleep here.


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20/09/2019 10:44 am  

for em about 280mg pw.

but then again I think if anyone ran that dose for 6 weeks they would test positive.

I think the blood levels take a bit longer to build up than 3 weeks at that level/.


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20/09/2019 11:14 am  

im not sure if they tested at week3 or week 6. it's not too clear in the study from what I can see...


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20/09/2019 11:43 am  
Posted by: jboldman
it does, 3.5mg/kg

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That's not that low of a dose, is it?


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20/09/2019 12:00 pm  
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That's not that low of a dose, is it?

For AAS using bbers it is.

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20/09/2019 12:20 pm  
Posted by: guijr
Indeed, it does. For me it's about 350 mg of test per week.

It was 318 for me. Just dieted down to 200.

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20/09/2019 12:37 pm  
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For AAS using bbers it is.

Not bad for a bridge dose tho.

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jboldman
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20/09/2019 1:08 pm  

well what does a typical enduro guy weigh?

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20/09/2019 1:27 pm  
Posted by: jboldman
well what does a typical enduro guy weigh?

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Their dose would be lower but they still might be able to do a sus 250

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