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swampthing
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24/06/2018 9:59 am  

I going to be doing a 10 week cycle of test and tren. I will be running 750mg per week of test. I am thinking about frontloading test the first two weeks.

Any recommendations on how many mg of test I should use in the frontload?


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JGUNS
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24/06/2018 10:13 am  

What type of test?


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swampthing
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24/06/2018 10:13 am  

Enthanate for the first 7-8 weeks and then I will finish with prop.


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24/06/2018 10:14 am  

I would use the propinate to frontload personally at 700-800 for the first 2 weeks (ED or EOD). If you use enathate I would double the amount for 2 weeks. So, you would inject double on each day you shoot.


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swampthing
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24/06/2018 12:17 pm  

If I used prop to frontload would I still take 750mg of enthanate/week in those first two weeks?


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JGUNS
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24/06/2018 12:22 pm  

I would.


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ready2explode
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24/06/2018 12:23 pm  

If you were to shoot 375mgs of test every monday and thursday (750 mgs total a week) on your first day shoot an extra 500 mgs of test (total of 875 mgs or 3.5ccs on that first monday)

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ready2explode
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24/06/2018 12:24 pm  

IMO if ya dont have enough prop to use it at the beg and the end, i'd just use it at the end...imo ya def need it with that fina...

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Redman
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24/06/2018 12:25 pm  

I like to begin and end with prop. Just my 2 pennies.


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24/06/2018 2:33 pm  

keep it simple, just double up the enanthate for the first two weeks.

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Blade
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24/06/2018 2:34 pm  

Frontloading is best achieved on day 1 IMO, unless the dosage is excessive. The below graphic is a 900mg injection on day1, then 325mg every 3rd day - stable plasma levels at a mean level of 750mg. With 250mg/ml enanthate, it shouldn't be a problem.


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Realgains
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24/06/2018 2:46 pm  

All the above replies are good but I would recommend Blades recommendation.

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ready2explode
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24/06/2018 2:47 pm  
Posted by: Blade
Frontloading is best achieved on day 1 IMO, unless the dosage is excessive. The below graphic is a 900mg injection on day1, then 325mg every 3rd day - stable plasma levels at a mean level of 750mg. With 250mg/ml enanthate, it shouldn't be a problem.

First, how'd you make that graph and the calculations for it? Second, how do you measure out 325mgs with a 250mg/ml concentration?

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swampthing
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24/06/2018 2:48 pm  

I think 325mg = 1.5cc

Blade,

900mg on day 1 and then 325mg every third day for remainder of the cycle?


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JGUNS
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24/06/2018 2:49 pm  

I wouldn't get too attached to the graph, those roid calculators are misleading. Nandi refreshed my memory, but one way they are off is if you look at the little peaks and vallies. What would cause these little dropoffs? Nothing, because they don't occur naturally. AAS in the bloodstream would be represented by a smooth, curved line. Also, they oversimplify the breakdown process, there would actuall be more of a curve in that.. even with a frontload the amount in the bloodstream would still be much less at day one then at say, day 14.


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