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Shirer
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Age:32 Weight: 205 lbs. Sex: Male Eating habbits: 3000-4000 cal/day-majority from 1) protein. 2)carbs. 3) fat. Supps: Multi-vitamins, creatine, chromium, flax seeds, other odds-n-ends Goal: Mass, obviously, as safely as possible, I'll be cycling only one more time other than this within the next 12 mos, I think Cycle duration: 12 weeks total weeks 1-10 deca@ 300 mg/week Sust @ 250mg/week weeks 11 & 12 HCG 5000 IU/week w/ 1 tab clomid per day to be safe. and yes...I'll have nolva on hand j.i.c. Can someone let me know how this looks to them. Only other thing I'm not sure about is the frequency of injections. I know you're supposed to inject Win Dep ed because its carrier is H20 soluable , so I was thinking 1cc deca 3 times per week, and 1.25cc sust two days/week. Seems simple and effective from what I've read Nothing great will ever be achieved without great men, and men are great only if they are determined to be so.-Charles de Gaulle


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juice1348
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ok, first of all you need to up the mg of both. i would go 400mg of deca and 500mg of sust. do a two shots a week of both. i think 10 weeks is long enough but you could go 12.


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Valkyl
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If thats all u have. Run the sus 250 eod shots weeks 1-3. after that run it 500 mgs a week weeks 4-12. Run the deca 600 mgs weeks 1-2. Run it 400 mgs weeks 3-11. PCT at week 15. Read up on clomid dosages first.


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250ByXmas
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I don't think the doses are unreasonable. At age 32, your natural test has started to drop a bit, so coming in at 250mg/week is a big boost. You might get more gains at a higher dose, but you'll risk more sides and have more trouble keeping what you worked for. At the low doses that you plan on doing, there's no need to spread out the shots.


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Shirer
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From what i've been reading it seems like these small doses are the way to go with your first one. However, I dont want to waste my time. If more gear is the logical route, then thats what i'll do. I want to make my gains significant enough that I'll plenty to keep me busy when I come off the cycle, as far as maintaining and eventually cutting up with a tren or similar.


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Killer Quads81
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Go with the cycle Valkyl posted. And as far as useing low doses on your first cycle, why waste your $$. 500mg/week of test and 400mg/week of deca is the ideal for a first cycle.


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littlewilly
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Agreed 500test 400deca. Kick ass first cycle. Not too crazy, not too many drugs. Just the basics.


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willlaz
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That's what I'm doing for my first cycle. 500mg of homade test prop a week at 150mg eod and a shot 0f qv300/week. I'm coming off a serious cutting cycle and am going from 1400 cal/day plus shitload of cardio to 5000-6000 calories a day with little to no cardio. I start this Monday and am super stoked. I'd do like 100mg a week more deca,but my guy bricked so I just gotta go with this.


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BigWill
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And drop the HCG at the end of your cycle and use clomid.


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