Creatine - How and why?

Has any one tried the Nano Creatine from I think ASN yet. It is suppose to be the best delivery technolgy available. Bigock

I suggest anyone using the powder get a liver function while on it and see what is happening. scary stuff!!

Just use Kynosalien. Much better and the b12 gives alittle hunger boost.

I have used both Cell-Tech and generic powdered micronised creatine over the years and definately noticed the difference between them two. If I could afford it I'd use Cell-Tech the whole time. It gave me a lot more than cheaper alternative: faster recovery, endurance, staying power, I was able to train with more intensity for longer and with the clean diet considerable fat loss. (damn... sounds like an ad LOL). IMHO creatine as a supplement is worth considering, especially when off the cycle, when you need that extra edge. I think Cell-Tech is good stuff but very OVERPRISED though!!! Also, creatine that doesn't disolve in water will NOT disolve in your body. I found that cheap creatine (usually best selling one) is hard to disolve and can give you stomach upsets. Personally I'm never gonna use cheap stuff again. Very interesting what JerryTheJuicer said about high liver enzymes. I do blood tests regularly and noticed liver enzymes were high, that's 4 months after the cycle and using creatine, mind you I didn't use orals and kept my diet clean...hmm. In regards to liquid creatine compared to powder I read that effects are the same. Perhaps liquid is more convinient. My little brother started using one and he's 100% natural. Will let you know what he thinks.

Originally posted by JerryTheJuicer I suggest anyone using the powder get a liver function while on it and see what is happening. scary stuff!! JTJ, what's the science (cause) of the higher liver enzyme counts? I take it, then, this could be multiplied if one were on a heavy oral cycle? I'd like to know more. IronMike

Originally posted by JerryTheJuicer I suggest anyone using the powder get a liver function while on it and see what is happening. scary stuff!! Lower grade creatine's have more impurities than the better ones. These impurities are the ones that can effect your liver functions, give you stomach upsets or headaches. If you use a top quality creatine (creapure, GEN-TEC etc) you shouldn't have the above problems. I use GEN-TEC creatine and get my blood tests done fairly regularly, NEVER A PROBLEM. As for Cell Tech, it works well because it has a good dosage of dextrose in it. Man just go buy some from the supermarket, buy a good quality creatine and you'll get the same effect at a cheaper price. When using creatine I load for 5-6 days, then it's 5g with breakfast (post cardio), 5g 1hr before training with a protein shake that has carbs added, 10g straight after training with a protein shake that has carbs added. I love the stuff, it works great on me. I even load on it the last week before a show. I cycle 8 weeks on 1-2 weeks off. This stategy was handed down to me by Nick Jones, I trust his knowledge very much. It's also great for post cycle. As for liquid creatine, all the reading I have done says it is unstable in liquid. Maybe they have found a way to keep it stable but that would mean they are the only ones on the planet who know how to do it. I'm sure there are many top scientists out there trying to find a way, so I doubt this company is that far ahead. I could be wrong.

Even if the liquid one was stable in liquid, its about 100x more expensive. I got 1kg of prolab (creapure) for $70, 1000g, how many little serum bottles would it take to get 1kg, or even 500g if its twice as effective as so often claimed. I dont personally get anything noticable from it, but I take it cause its so cheap, 1kg lasts me months, and science says it works, so it may be having a minimal effect, even if i dont notice it.

Originally posted by IronMike JTJ, what's the science (cause) of the higher liver enzyme counts? I take it, then, this could be multiplied if one were on a heavy oral cycle? I'd like to know more. IronMike Love to be able to tell you but I ain't no scientist, all I know is enzymes up = dramas!!! go to www.creatine.com for all the answers re: the liquid versus the powder J.T.J