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18/07/2019 11:19 pm
Just as the title says. How many of you guys train and race with power?
I do, and I feel like without it, you are playing a bit of a guessing game regarding cause/effect when evaluating training effectiveness.
One of the problems I have while I do research into some of these threads (I am still a newb) is the lack of quantifiable gains, and it is all subjective (i.e. I felt really strong, or I was able to ride really hard, I felt totally winded more easily, etc.). I'm just trying to gauge how many guys take a scientific approach to evaluating effectiveness specifically WRT cycling performance here.
18/07/2019 11:44 pm
I only train with hrt, although i would like to train with power. I can get fairly accurate gauges of my fitness with polar software. i also get alot of testing done to see how my fitness is going, and if i am peaking.
When i race i prefer not to have anything. If i need to know something like distance or whatever, i just radio in.
What sort of power meter do you use?
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19/07/2019 12:06 am
SRM
Problem with HR is that it is not reflective of output. I actually don't even use the HR function of the SRM anymore (sometimes I do). After all, does it matter if my HR is 170BPM and my match's are fried, or if it is 185 and I have some juice in the tank? Nope. You give it what you got... But for training and measuring gains, power removes any ambiguities.
19/07/2019 12:35 am
2 srm's(raod bike track bike.
Polar power on MTN bike and computrainer
19/07/2019 1:01 am
PT SL
19/07/2019 1:19 am
supplychain i got a computrainer yesterday
honestly a bit disappointed. I actually think the imagic top of the range would have been better and its abotu half price
considered srm's but they're even more exp and also you dont get the simulation capability on this
whats your call on this?
19/07/2019 1:42 am
SRM on my bike
always use power, but also keep an eye on HRM as well.
there is no Q that power is best, but HRM can be used usefully as well.
Both power and HRM are personal outputs and its little use comparing power or HRM in one rider with another.
With my power figures i look at watts per Kg at a particular intensity, so say watts per Kg as a max at 5sec, 10sec, 60sec, 3mins, 5mins and 60mins
I reckon the most imortant is watts at threshold and thus threshold power/Kgs
My threshold at this time is 375-380 watts/ Hr at this is around 164+/- 2 or 3 bpm
GP
19/07/2019 1:59 am
Ergomo-The only way to train is with power.Off the subject,you can also see how well your gear is working.
19/07/2019 2:23 am
SRM and PT SL here.
I can see significant gains in my performance year over year and have modified my training with my coach to key in on what works best for me. Without it, I would have continued to peak after the races I intended to peak for or would have burned myself out before I ever got there. I know, both have happened to me over the last couple of seasons. Everybody responds differently to training stimulus and you really have to listen to your body and analyze the data you get over a number of training cycles to figure out what works for you. Without the power meter and the right software, I don't think this would have been possible. At least not for me.
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19/07/2019 2:53 am
Off the subject,you can also see how well your gear is working.
Huh? Off subject? OMFG that is what this is about!
19/07/2019 3:23 am
I train with HR only because I can't afford the other....yet.
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19/07/2019 3:49 am
My threshold at this time is 375-380 watts/ Hr at this is around 164+/- 2 or 3 bpmGP [/B]
Hey GP that is a high output...mine is around there too, but I am tall so I punch a big hole in the wind (and somewhat heavy so p/w is nothing all that impressive).
But do you keep track of gains you have had from different "supplements" and know what to attribute gains to?
Any info around this you are willing to share would be much appreciated.
19/07/2019 4:17 am
supplychain i got a computrainer yesterdayhonestly a bit disappointed. I actually think the imagic top of the range would have been better and its abotu half price
considered srm's but they're even more exp and also you dont get the simulation capability on this
whats your call on this?
computrainer is pretty acurate @ lower rpm's but sucks when dropping srious power.
I use it for visual stimulation, so i dont get bored.
plus it's fun to do intervals and save the file and then race yourself to see hoe much quicker you are
19/07/2019 4:47 am
what do you mean it sucks at higher power? inaccurate?
I dont udnerstand it either....I have used cateye cs1000 and can get up to about 2200w for 10 seconds. on the computrainer only 1300w. don't geddit.
so what would you recommend. the simulation thing is crappy anyway. it's boring. only decent hting as you said is to do some intervals and compare with previous performance.
I shudda gone for srm...fuk it.
19/07/2019 5:07 am
what do you mean it sucks at higher power? inaccurate?I dont udnerstand it either....I have used cateye cs1000 and can get up to about 2200w for 10 seconds. on the computrainer only 1300w. don't geddit.
so what would you recommend. the simulation thing is crappy anyway. it's boring. only decent hting as you said is to do some intervals and compare with previous performance.
I shudda gone for srm...fuk it.
The computrainer is likely more accurate. If you could put out 2200 watts for 10 seconds you'd be on the Olympic podium for the match sprint.