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marilia05
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01/08/2018 2:27 pm  

I need some advice (and maybe a little cheering-up): many, many years ago I had an injury in my right hand. I was a fencer and my thumb muscle started going into tetanic spams and dropped the weapon. There was this large white spot on the x-ray, u-s didn't indicate anything in particular and docs decided to give me cortisone shots directly on the injury site. I was preparing for the Brazilian championship (which I eventually won...) and no one wanted to waste a lot of time on the issue. I think my hand NEVER recovered. Today, I am a recreational bodybuilder, but, WITH STRAPS, I'm lifting quite good weight at deadlift. However, I have no grip. Can anybody suggest ANYTHING I could do to improve my hand strength?

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01/08/2018 3:02 pm  

how much can you grip now? any lasting damage or symptoms other than general weakness? are there any flex or range of motion issues?

Cheer up! where there is a will there is a way. THis board holds fencers in high esteem, you are among friends.

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01/08/2018 3:51 pm  

This place has some great grip specific training books/equipment.

Do you get any symptoms into your forearms as well or just locally in the hand?

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01/08/2018 4:51 pm  

Assuming you're ok to train hands/forearms, here is a form of finger/forearm curls that should work well for you. It's a little difficult to explain without a photo but I'll do my best:

Begin with an empty olympic bar placed on a weight rack that is somewhere just above knee high for you. Stand before the bar but instead of facing toward it, turn your back to it, and back into it (your hamstrings should be touching it, not your quads..... in other words). Bend your knees and grip the bar at about shoulder width apart such that your knuckles are closest to your hamstrings, palms facing away from hamstrings. Straighten your legs up so you're holding the bar and it's now off the rack.

Slowly relax your hands/fingers, letting the bar roll down as far as you can without dropping it. Then, using your fingers, roll the bar back up, and curl your wrists up at the top, trying not to bend your elbows. Do sets of 8-12 reps with a weight that is challenging to do. These should really burn a lot with the right weight/rep range, and will really help your strength throughout forearms & hands.

Hope that was clear?!

This method is superior IMHO to doing the same exercise seated, with forearms rested on thighs and the bar hanging over the front of the knees...... MUCH less wear & tear on the wrists.

Good luck.

Be well.

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01/08/2018 5:31 pm  

Absolutely 100 percent recommend ironmind.com. I used to have trouble holding on to the weight that i was lifting, especially deadlifts. With the use of the "eagle claws", captains of crush grippers, and the rolling thunder i havent had a problem with my grip at all. You could definitely benefit from the Hand Health, Therapy and Rehabilitation section. It tells you what is good for what you need.
HD

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01/08/2018 6:17 pm  

Don't use wrist straps during your back workouts, specially barbell deadlifts.

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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marilia05
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01/08/2018 7:18 pm  
Posted by: PC1
Assuming you're ok to train hands/forearms, here is a form of finger/forearm curls that should work well for you. It's a little difficult to explain without a photo but I'll do my best:Hope that was clear?!

This method is superior IMHO to doing the same exercise seated, with forearms rested on thighs and the bar hanging over the front of the knees...... MUCH less wear & tear on the wrists.

Good luck.

I think I got it: it's like if you were going to do a traps shrug, but with the bar behind instead of in front of you, but you don't do the SHRUG, just the hand movement, right?

Thanks!!!!


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marilia05
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01/08/2018 8:08 pm  
Posted by: guijr
Don't use wrist straps during your back workouts, specially barbell deadlifts.

Never?? But then I can hardly lift any weight... What if I do my regular workout WITH straps (like I do) and then a couple without them? In this case, if you think this would be a strategy, should I leave the "no-strap" sets for after the "real" workout (in which case I'll be fadigued, but it wouldn't matter because with no straps I can't lift any weight anyway)?


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marilia05
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01/08/2018 9:04 pm  
Posted by: jboldman
how much can you grip now? any lasting damage or symptoms other than general weakness? are there any flex or range of motion issues?

Cheer up! where there is a will there is a way. THis board holds fencers in high esteem, you are among friends.

jb

Thanks, JB, especially for the cheering-up part!
Well, I'm doing this WBhybrid workout, which works like a kind of pyramid with 8 sets with short inter-set resting periods and last time I lifted 68kg at the 8th set, 4 reps (pretty much fadigued), which is... (let me find the calculator) 149.6lb. I wouldn't know what my 1RM is because of the fadigue. Not really bad considering the BR record of 90kg (198lb) for the 60kg category, and I weigh only 50kg (110lb), right? Well, I'm starting. These are the figures.

No: no other symptoms or damage. Just this general weakness, specially thumbs.

thx!!!


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marilia05
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01/08/2018 9:38 pm  
Posted by: DocJ
This place has some great grip specific training books/equipment.

Do you get any symptoms into your forearms as well or just locally in the hand?

Wonderful - unfortunately it's complicated to have stuff delivered here (shipping & handling, etc.), but there are similar gear here. Since I know virtually nothing about grip training, I didn't think of using them. But if you recommend, then I'll surely go for that.

thanks!

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guijr
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02/08/2018 6:33 am  
Posted by: marilia05
Never?? But then I can hardly lift any weight... What if I do my regular workout WITH straps (like I do) and then a couple without them? In this case, if you think this would be a strategy, should I leave the "no-strap" sets for after the "real" workout (in which case I'll be fadigued, but it wouldn't matter because with no straps I can't lift any weight anyway)?

If you really think you should use it, do it only during the heavy sets.

IMHO, if one has to build a strength, endurance etc. base (background) all over again in order to get rid of a certain limitation, then he/she must face it till he gets strong as a rock in the future.

"The medals don't mean anything and the glory doesn't last. It's all about your happiness. The rewards are going to come, but my happiness is just loving the sport and having fun performing" ~ Jackie Joyner Kersee.


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HugeDeep
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02/08/2018 8:01 am  

As you lift more and more weight, there really shouldnt be much problem with the grip, it should strengthen as you do. If it does not or you are looking for that extra edge, or maybe just sheer crushing power, then go to ironmind and there should be no problems. Anyone play with the Grippers???

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marilia05
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02/08/2018 9:52 am  
Posted by: DocJ
This place has some great grip specific training books/equipment.

http://www.ironmind.com/ironcms/opencms/ironmind /" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> http://www.ironmind.com/ironcms/opencms/ironmind/

Do you get any symptoms into your forearms as well or just locally in the hand?

Doc, sorry to bother, but what equipment you think should be best for someone like me to order right now? There is a great variety on ironmind and all I could figure was that numbers 2-4 were not exactly for my level....


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