what do you guys think about using them? I have bad shoulders and by doing chest and shoulders on them it provides me alot of relief. Is it still possilbe to get bigger using this machine. I am able to go real heavy like 6 to 8 reps.
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i dont like them. i got messed up shoulders too and when i do shoulders i like useing dumbells, and do less weight for chest.
I do use them a lot and like them, but I don't use them exclusively. Dorian Yates used them and that's good enough for me.
i use the smith machine all the time on shoulder presses, i like it better then the dbells, and behind the neck seems better for me, ive put on some size since using it every time its shoulder day, or that could be that i upped the gear amount...BIG ANT 😀
I like them for some things. I'll use em for behind the neck presses or incline bench. Maybe squats too, but that's about it. And really, apart from some cable tris and lats work, that is the only machine I use. Use it if you like it, but you have to pay MORE attention to get proper tecnique and motion (ie better development). IronMike
Slow your rep speed down considerably. You will more than likely notice that this helps reduce the pain and perhaps inflamation. Try a 10-5 rep cadence your chest and shoulder exercises. Also, reduce your volume to 3-5 sets total per week or more. Most injuries are the result of explosive training, or overusing the joint.
Yates used the Smith machine for front shoulder presses after he was injured whilst using massive weights pressing behind the neck. For this reason the smith machine offers greater safety. However, due to the machine running on a fixed plain of motion, ie straight up and straight down, I wouldn't be inclined to use it for press BEHIND the neck as the movement is just too unnatural.
Backhouse has a good point here. Alot of exercises are not in a fixed plain on motion. I know my bench sort of goes in a bananna motion but I do find that for front mil. presses it enables my to work my shoulders with heavier weight. (but I guess that doesn't necessarily mean I'm working them better)